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by flashy1 on 01 August 2013 - 15:08
Just wondering if any here owns a personal protection dog and can tell me some of the pros and cons of owning one and any other experience you would like to share. I dont plan on getting one anytime soon, but would like to own one eventually. Can anyone recommend some good and reputable PPD trainers, one that trains hard,dominant,civil dogs, REAL dogs. And is it manageable to own more than one at the same time?
Also what is better, buying a trained adult, or getting a puppy, and if you get a puppy how would you go about getting it trained?
Also what is better, buying a trained adult, or getting a puppy, and if you get a puppy how would you go about getting it trained?
by Hired Dog on 01 August 2013 - 15:08
If you are really serious about one and depending on your life style, look up the Fila breed. You want hard, civil, aggressive, as well as a big goofy dog in the house with those that live there? Its the Fila.
No training needed as far as protection, just raise it and teach it basic manners. The reality of this is that most people today do not have 10K-20K to spend on a dog nor the time to train one. An import from Brazil wont cost anywhere near that and the dog was bred for the purpose of protecting, among a couple of others. Its NOT the dog for everyone, if you are a social butterfly and have people in and out of your house, its not the dog for you. If you have a busy social life, not the dog for you, but, if you are really serious about your protection, there is nothing else I would rather own then a Fila.
No training needed as far as protection, just raise it and teach it basic manners. The reality of this is that most people today do not have 10K-20K to spend on a dog nor the time to train one. An import from Brazil wont cost anywhere near that and the dog was bred for the purpose of protecting, among a couple of others. Its NOT the dog for everyone, if you are a social butterfly and have people in and out of your house, its not the dog for you. If you have a busy social life, not the dog for you, but, if you are really serious about your protection, there is nothing else I would rather own then a Fila.
by samael28 on 01 August 2013 - 16:08
Cons- Liability, Cost effectiveness, insurance
Pros- obviously protection is worst case scenario, alerts before worst case, Deterrant. Most offenders are cowards at heart and a formidable dog provides a huge deterrent both in presence and or if alerted to guard. A trusted partner with a relationship.
Yes it is possible to own more than one at a time.
As far as safe to live with in the home- IMO a good PPD should be with you always and in your home. It doesnt do much good in a crate or out back. Also something like 90% of violent crimes are committed by people you know. if you do not have a dog that is discriminative that can be out and around you while around people how is it going to protect you?
Having a lack of experience with developing a dog i think most would recommend to buy a trained adult the comes with a handler course and follow up training. But you will pay for it.
If you decide to get a puppy make sure you have established a descent trainer to help you develop the dog. Then you will still end up investing a lot in the dog over the course of time to end up with a dog to fulfill its duties and even then you will have to provide follow up training through the dogs life to ensure the dog maintains its abilities and compliance.
So either way its a costly venture and spend a lot of time deciding if thats what you really want and who you get to help you through the process. Also study the laws in your area in depth. There are a lot of laws that protect perpetrators in both criminal and civil courts whether it be on your property or in public. Unfortunately its just the way it is so know them backwards and frontwards.
Pros- obviously protection is worst case scenario, alerts before worst case, Deterrant. Most offenders are cowards at heart and a formidable dog provides a huge deterrent both in presence and or if alerted to guard. A trusted partner with a relationship.
Yes it is possible to own more than one at a time.
As far as safe to live with in the home- IMO a good PPD should be with you always and in your home. It doesnt do much good in a crate or out back. Also something like 90% of violent crimes are committed by people you know. if you do not have a dog that is discriminative that can be out and around you while around people how is it going to protect you?
Having a lack of experience with developing a dog i think most would recommend to buy a trained adult the comes with a handler course and follow up training. But you will pay for it.
If you decide to get a puppy make sure you have established a descent trainer to help you develop the dog. Then you will still end up investing a lot in the dog over the course of time to end up with a dog to fulfill its duties and even then you will have to provide follow up training through the dogs life to ensure the dog maintains its abilities and compliance.
So either way its a costly venture and spend a lot of time deciding if thats what you really want and who you get to help you through the process. Also study the laws in your area in depth. There are a lot of laws that protect perpetrators in both criminal and civil courts whether it be on your property or in public. Unfortunately its just the way it is so know them backwards and frontwards.
by LadyFrost on 01 August 2013 - 16:08
Hired Dog...very interesting...i had never heard of this breed before and i thought i was well versed in dog breeds....thanks for the info...:)
by flashy1 on 01 August 2013 - 16:08
Hired Dog, I should have mentioned that I was talking about the GSD. I have heard about Filas. I know many are very civil but you really cant guarantee that any dog regardless of breed will protect without training. Thanks for the info so far.
by Hired Dog on 01 August 2013 - 16:08
Lady frost, you are very welcome. Flashy, correction, you CANNOT guarantee that any dog, regardless of training will engage anyone until it actually does it, live, under stress, no equipment present.
In that regard, I will take the civilness of a well bred Fila over any other breed that has been trained. In today world, most of the dogs being sold as working/protection dogs can be killed with a Kong and a pocket knife. Those that cannot be, 99% of people cannot live with or handle, I know, I owned one. You are also very welcome.
In that regard, I will take the civilness of a well bred Fila over any other breed that has been trained. In today world, most of the dogs being sold as working/protection dogs can be killed with a Kong and a pocket knife. Those that cannot be, 99% of people cannot live with or handle, I know, I owned one. You are also very welcome.
by samael28 on 01 August 2013 - 16:08
so true hired.
by Gustav on 01 August 2013 - 17:08
hired dog! 
by EuroShepherd on 01 August 2013 - 17:08
I agree with you, Hired, I've always felt that if I seriously, really really needed a dog for protection that it would be the Fila. But such a breed requires more responsibility than other breeds, and good deal more dog behavior knowledge than the average dog lover has.
I live in a suburban neighborhood and I have a reasonably good social life, IMO not a good environment for a Fila's nature. Fila is a better choice for people who don't invite other people to their homes and don't have friendly neighbors who like to pop over at random times of the day...
But...if I lived in a remote place where I don't want people wandering around and rarely had visitors, I would love to have a Fila or two...
I live in a suburban neighborhood and I have a reasonably good social life, IMO not a good environment for a Fila's nature. Fila is a better choice for people who don't invite other people to their homes and don't have friendly neighbors who like to pop over at random times of the day...
But...if I lived in a remote place where I don't want people wandering around and rarely had visitors, I would love to have a Fila or two...
by Jeffs on 01 August 2013 - 17:08
Just curious, but would a retired police dog be a potential candidate? They retire them fairly young, and I would think they would cost less than a younger dog. Plus, they'd be field tested. You'd have the added benefit of being able to talk with the officer that handled the dog to see how it was around the family. Nice to get a local dog with a local trainer - just in case.
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