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Kerschberger

by Kerschberger on 08 December 2011 - 15:12

by: DVM Patricia Jordan, also watch the youtube clip embedded at the end of the article

http://www.thedogplace.org/VACCINES/Vaccinosis-Death_Staff-1112.asp

by Ibrahim on 08 December 2011 - 16:12

That is fearful, it is good to read and widen one's awareness, no doubt about that but such "claims" and individual studies do confuse some dog owners about what is the correct practice in regards to dog vaccination!!
I for one shall adhere to present proven vaccination protocol till it is announced otherwise by recognized body of authority not an individual vet or researcher.
Thanks for sharing.

Ibrahim

by Blitzen on 11 December 2011 - 13:12

Every vet school in the US has revised it's vaccine protocol to generally reflect that of Jean Dodds. That protocol can be found on the net using a Jean Dodds google search. Briefly she recommends the basic puppy series, 2, 3, 4 months and then boosters every 3 years, no lepto. Do not routinely vaccinate againt non-lifethreatening diseases like kennel cough and corona. Rabies must be given per the local laws. I won't even get into how vets manipulate the 3-year and the 1-year rabies vaccines to their own benefit here in FL. Bottom line, the 3-year and the 1-year are identical and are either labeled for 1-year or 3-year duration. Rabies laws are always promulgated by non-dog owners who don't really care if annual boosters are harmful to the dog or not.

In spite of these recommmendations many vets still talk their clients into annual vaccines.  A distemper combo cost a vet less than $0.75 including the syringe. Do the math. Some vets say they recommend annual vacs because the vaccine manufacturers still recommend annual boosters.


CrashKerry

by CrashKerry on 11 December 2011 - 14:12

It's not just the vets' fault. Titer testing is a lot more expensive than just receiving the booster. A lot of average joe pet owners aren't going to pay the extra money. I know a vet who holds a low cost rabies clinic every year. For a lot of the dogs that show up that's the only time they see a vet.

Kerschberger

by Kerschberger on 11 December 2011 - 16:12

well i don't vaccinate at all, my dogs are still alive and thriving, i  have a vet dvm trained in Colorado, who does NOT vaccinate her three dogs, treats them homeopathically, or with acupuncture, and feeds raw. 

http://www.rabieschallengefund.org/

here an excerpt of my website (thus copyrighted)  but for a simple explanation as to why

Dogs which are over vaccinated and then used for breeding, pass on their slightly altered/damaged dna to their offspring from generation to generation, thereby weakening generation after generation, just as much as they pass on the DM gene or hip/elbow/ ANY kind of gene.  Its THIS simple.  Look at when a breeder is trying to breed a certain type. 


A 'type' is made up of DNA too, we can fairly easily alter that by breeding dog a   to dog b  with similar character traits or to one who has a trait which the mate does possess more of or is better (in our eyes)  Look what happens to the red coat gene in the GS dogs, as an example, which is a very visible one.  When you go overboard with it, you suddenly get a 'washed out' red sablish coloring.   Not what we were after.  That saddle we want to be black, not washed out red-ish  

THAT is an exterior example of what we do to our dogs' interior when adding unwanted not needed environmental 'ingredients'.  We turn their insides into walking bombs with those cocktails.  It can and will affect dogs' hips and elbows too.    ie: structurally  If you consider your dog a member of your family, don't you owe it to your dog to make a stand and tell your vet NO THANKS to vaccines, frontline, heartworm and do this naturally.  Do your homework, the internet is FULL of great sites which will give you precise guidelines for feeding and homeopathic protocols which replace the vaccines.

You don't have to agree, but it seems many people do

by Ibrahim on 11 December 2011 - 19:12

Blitzen,

Thanks for the excellent post.

Kerschberger,

Are you the breeder who interviewd Walter Martin? Anyway I'm sure of your good intentions of bringing awareness to us regarding the otherside of vaccinations, my question is how true is what you posted? Is it recognized by the majority of vets and or breeders? what you say is a very serious thing !!!

Ibrahim

Kerschberger

by Kerschberger on 12 December 2011 - 01:12

Ibrahim,  Mr. Walter Martin was before my time of being involved with GSDS.  He passed in 1996 the night before the BSZS in Germany.

The person you are referring to is Ricardo Carbajal  http://kerschberger.com/makingofasieger.htm  I have never found any other interview with Mr. Martin.  

What I am saying is serious, but all you need to do is put it together to see how 'we' the breeders succesfully over the years have manipulated the exterior DNA of our dogs.  Ex: be extreme and go to Horand SV1 and compare him to Yasko.

so that is 30+ generations of tweeking DNA -

This too happens when you breed a dog to have a smaller head, bigger head, broader chest, longer coat.  Its all DNA manipulation. 

All I m saying is that we should think of what all this 'SHOOTING UP' can and does do.   There is a lot of information of the harm it does,  but what comes to mind is those stories of dogs with allergies, cancer and our dogs barely reaching the age of 12 if we're lucky.   A friend had a GS dog way back when I lived in Europe.  He (Lex) lived till 17, was fed raw green tripe only, never had a shot in his life, and surely neither did his Sire and Dam.    This is over 30 years ago.  I don't know about you, but I get these stories from other GS owners from time to time that their dogs lived to 15, 16 way back when.

I guess all I can conclude that something between then and now changed dramatically.   

And what is that?

The dog food industry has become a huge money maker - A multi Billion dollar market

pharmaceutical companies now are pushing and paying vets for everything from heartworm to flea and tick scares

Money talks the rest walks.    

Back to that manipulating DNA. 

It probably is destroying DNA, and what makes us think that damaged DNA is not passed on

I have examples of a friend of mine whom had herself shot up every three months with a hormone
shot of Depo Provera.

At the 2nd shot phase she noticed her thyroid was growing, but got the third shot (so now 9 months)
not putting the picture together, and then she looked it up and sure enough other women had similar
stories of thyroid issues.   The Thyroid is the thermometer/hormone regulator of the body as many know,
so the thyroid due to an over volume of hormones goes in overwhelm. 

Same happens to our puppies.  Pushing those 7-1 vaccines every three weeks into those little bodies.
But our dogs can't talk.   We are using them like lab rats, well not us, but we are letting them be used
by others whom we trust, correction :  we are supposed to trust.








 

Olga Ashley

by Olga Ashley on 12 December 2011 - 05:12

Its the same for people; I hear 40% of children now have food allergies, we are seeing a lot more autism, developmental issues and so on.  I was horribly affected by a vaccine in January of this year; for months I had horrible nuerological issues, brain fog, horrible vertigo, could barely move to the point that I had to CRAWL up my stairs and didn't even have the strength to stand in the shower, my vision changed, my veins darkened, I couldn't tolerate noise or sound, my hair was falling out....it was very scary and honestly I was unsure of if I would live through it!  I am 99.9 percent better but do still have some brain fog and vertigo along with a TON of new food allergies (NEVER had food allergies prior to that stupid shot).  The funny thing is, I trusted my DR., she said it was safe and I said well SURE then....had it been my vet for one of my dogs, I would have researched and thought it through!  LOL. 

I have had a case of Parvo YEARS ago at my parents house (lots of money spent and everybody lived) when I was doing limited vaccines.  I took a 12wk old puppy to the vet (one vaccine was given prior/single Parvo) after his sister put a puncture very close to his tear duct, I held him the entire time, the only time he was on a surface was on the vet's table...a week later he had Parvo, as did his littermates.  I now do a single Parvo at 6wks and 3 5-in-ones.  Boosters are given at 18mos, titers after.   When I worked for a vet clinic, our vet almost killed a cat we rescued...he was already very thin, older (6-7yrs old) and had filthy teeth, he was a persian cat...both beautiful and VERY sweet.  His owner said, "I don't want him anymore, just put him down."  So my mom and I took the cat, but before the vet would release him to us he cleaned his teeth, shaved him, put him on antibiotics, dewormed him, did ALLLLLL of his shots (which I'm sure he DIDN'T need and had before!).  This poor guy was VERY sick for weeks....he had blood in his stool/urine, lost a bunch of hair, had bouts of seizures....but he pulled through and lived to be 17.   I am NOT a fan of vaccines, but have never had problems with the program I use now. 

Kerschberger

by Kerschberger on 12 December 2011 - 19:12


Olga,  Its from those unwanted experiences you describe that we learn ... 

At six weeks a shot is unfortunately of no use.  at all.  The pups are protected by their Dams immunity (if she is healthy)
until 8 weeks, then a ONE time parvo shot is what I used to do.   Now I don't do it at all.  

re:    "I now do a single Parvo at 6wks and    3    5-in-ones."   

I would seriously reconsider that as the coctails are the worst offenders to the immune system of a developing or geriatric dog especially.

But, don't take my word for it. 

Here is a FANTASTIC LIBRARY of info that will keep you busy for months if not years to come.
Its updated all the time.  Main site for pets is this link
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/healthypets.htm

Then the vaccine page is this one with many subpages
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/petvacc.htm

Enjoy!  

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 12 December 2011 - 20:12

Nice to see I'm not the only one who thinks about this stuff. I'm working on getting a few generations of "clean" dogs...unvaccinated, raw fed. Most of the pups I have bred have never been vaccinated, and I'm thankful to have found other people who believe as I do. A couple have, but only minimally (parvo, distemper single shots and rabies as required by law). I'm hoping to increase natural immunity. I won't even sell a dog to someone who vaccinates per manufacturer recommendations. Too much has been proven about this subject. Anyone who continues to bury their heads in the sand instead of standing up for the dogs and looking at what is truly in their best interest will not be getting one of my puppies. My commitment to them is to place them in homes where they will be appreciated, loved, and cared for in an optimal way. Vaccination protocols are anything but in the dogs' best interest. 

This is the site of a lady I co-own a dog with. She has some good links on here:
http://tipschihuahuas.com/Links.html






 


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