why is there no more dobermans in police and army use ? - Page 1

hi guys... I want to know , why do not police and army use doberman anymore ? What are the reasons ? To be honest, I used to see more dobermans as police dogs when I was kid but now It is becoming so rare to see a doberman as a police dog ? I love dobermans. They are so amazing but It seems police & army prefer german shepherd and belgian malinois over dobermans. What do german shepherd and belgian malinois have that dobermans lack ? I have been told several times by several k9 handlers & other dog owners that dobermans are not multi-handlers... Some say, doberman do not have that solid nerve(quality of being calm and confident even in new ,strange & adverse situation) needed to work for police..but i do not believe it much.. I am keen to know, what are the real reasons ? I request all people to please let me and others know.. What are the real reasons behind not working of dobermans in police and army anymore ? Thanks.

the short and simple answer is that dogs that actually work have to be bred to work.

on a broader note, the GSD is about as close as one can come to a "wash and wear" dog. can adapt to a wide range of climates, more available than the dobie and can be found in temperament to suite any job. from calm and steady drug dogs to the maneaters. and all in between.

JMO,
Rik

Rik, thanks for those 3 words:"wash and wear". These words explains it all. The GSD is so varsatile in it uses and t duties that it out-shined it's contemporaries, one of which is the dobermann.

I love Doberman Pinschers. 30 years ago, I had Dobermans for personal protection dogs and guard dogs, now I have  Belgian Malinois and German Shepherd.

Why the Doberman is Different? By John Soares http://www.johnsoaresk9training.com/info/dobermanarticle.html  

I don't know much about Dobermans, but every Schutzhund trainer (club president or helpers) I know has had very little good to say about Dobermans today  

I do not know anything about Dobies ... but the few I have met at clubs have been very nervous animals. Maybe that has something to do with it?

On a flip side, I know of a pet quality Dobie (not registered and no idea of lineage) that is as solid and stable as they come and with good drives.

I have never seen or heard of dobies as police dogs. Frankly, I cannot imagin e it. I agree with the comments/explanations given. It is mostly about nerve.

one of my friend own both breeds at the same time but my friend is not on pedigreedatabase. So I am posting words of my friend. YouTube - ‪Doberman opening the Patio door‬‏ This is why, he entered with out a warrant: ) As the overly proud owner of 2 Sheps and 2 Dobes, I would think it is to do with the seperation issues. My Dobes want to be with me at all times. One of the Dobes was in a shelter on an Army Base when I got him. Right behind the Army Stray Dog Shelter was a Army Dog Training Center. It was surrounded by chain link fence with razor wire that said No one beyond this fence. Then in a Kennel sat a lone German Shepherd. He was calmly laying there looking out of his kennel. I would guess the Shep was waiting more training or his soldier was on another asignment or any one of thousand things... My German Sheps seem fine with attention and treats then go on there way to play or sleep. My Dobes stick to me like Glue (Velcro, Darn I always miss that one and feels like cheating to delete Now, I do have to dis-agree with one thing said above, my Dobes do not seem to mind the heat and for sure they do not mind it like my Sheps. My Sheps hate the heat. And on cool mornings they are re-born with Puppy energy. And on those cool mornings , the Dobes dont seem to enjoy for the cold. I often tell people I have two Warm weather dogs and two cold weather Dogs. The Dobes have not went through winter with me yet. The Shepherds did. They loved the snow and cold. Speed goes to the Dobe for sure. But both can out run a human.

one of my friend own both breeds at the same time but my friend is not on pedigreedatabase. So I am posting words of my friend. YouTube - ‪Doberman opening the Patio door‬‏ This is why, he entered with out a warrant: ) As the overly proud owner of 2 Sheps and 2 Dobes, I would think it is to do with the seperation issues. My Dobes want to be with me at all times. One of the Dobes was in a shelter on an Army Base when I got him. Right behind the Army Stray Dog Shelter was a Army Dog Training Center. It was surrounded by chain link fence with razor wire that said No one beyond this fence. Then in a Kennel sat a lone German Shepherd. He was calmly laying there looking out of his kennel. I would guess the Shep was waiting more training or his soldier was on another asignment or any one of thousand things... My German Sheps seem fine with attention and treats then go on there way to play or sleep. My Dobes stick to me like Glue (Velcro, Darn I always miss that one and feels like cheating to delete Now, I do have to dis-agree with one thing said above, my Dobes do not seem to mind the heat and for sure they do not mind it like my Sheps. My Sheps hate the heat. And on cool mornings they are re-born with Puppy energy. And on those cool mornings , the Dobes dont seem to enjoy for the cold. I often tell people I have two Warm weather dogs and two cold weather Dogs. The Dobes have not went through winter with me yet. The Shepherds did. They loved the snow and cold. Speed goes to the Dobe for sure. But both can out run a human.

I had a dobe in my 20's that was sound as any Ive had since. I actually got him from an AF base in Wa. Most dobes I see today are not bred to be working dogs. I had the chance to buy an imported male from Germany but at the time I didnt have the space. I heard later the dog was placed in a pet home through a rescue and ended up at the shelter when he bit the owner. Sad way to end a Sch titled dog.

The male I had wasnt needy or a couple others I have rescued since werent either. Pushy and in your face was more like it. I don't care for that now that Im older. But a well bred dog is a sight to behold and I will always have fond memories of those Ive had.