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by Mackzar on 21 June 2011 - 18:06

Greetings,

 
Looking for someone that knows there way around the data base and understands all the term / abbreviations etc.. I am simply trying to understand the back ground of my dog’s parents but have no clue what I am looking at. And also the last dog the only information I can find is the DN#, but again I do not know how to research it. If anyone can anyone help me understand what these titles mean of the first two dogs and what country they came from would be greatly appreciated.   

1.      SG (CAC-YU)of Krassi von Witenberg- DN18950801 AKC DNA# 487464 (YUG)

 

2.       SV V1Kkl 1of V Opus z Agiru Bohemia- DN 20256101 AKC DNA # V509374 (CZR)

 

3.      Mark Divinske Nadvoria- DN 12193601 / AKC DNA# V481353 (SFR)

 

4.      Gatorland’s Belle DN04832505

 

Thanks Dale


Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 21 June 2011 - 20:06

Dale,

Here is a link to dog titles & Abbreviations. Most of the ones you want are probably down the bottom of the page.

http://www.justfurkids.com/dog_titles.html

Good luck with your Dog!

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 21 June 2011 - 20:06

The numbers starting with DN are the AKC registration numbers.

Dog 1:  SG = Sehr Gut (very good) YU and YUG stand for Yugoslavia. CAC is an inernational champion certificate given at an FCI show.

Dog 2: SV is the German registration body. V stands for Vorzuglich (excellent.) Of the dogs given that rating at the show, this dog was #1.  There is no higher rating, except at the annual Sieger show.

The conformation ratings are as follows:

VA -Vorzuglich Auslese:  Excellent Select,the highest attainable award by a German show dog and granted only at the annual Sieger Show.
V - Vorzuglich:  Excellent.
SG - Sehr Gut:  Very Good; an official German show grade and the highest obtainable by
dogs under two.
G - Gut:  Good.
A - Austreichend:   Sufficient.
M - Mangelhaft:   Faulty.
U - Ungenugend:  Insufficient  tt


Kk1 is the koerclasse rating, and means the dog was breed surveyed (Korung) and highly recommended for breeding. If the title were Kkl2 it would mean the dog is suitable for breeding, but has some faults that must be taken into consideration when choosing a mate for it.
 
CZR is the code for the country where these titles were given. I am not sure what country CZR represents. It might stand for the Czech Republic.

Dog 3: Again, SFR is the country code, and I don't know what country it stands for.

Here is a list of abbreviations which relate specifically to German Shepherds: http://www.angesgardiens.ca/ANG/Glossary.htm

by VKFGSD on 21 June 2011 - 22:06

Mac  Congratulations on wanting to learn more about your dogs.

A good place to start is with the breeder of your dog. They should be able to answer the questions you have asked and much more. That is one of the prime functions of a breeder IMHO - to educate about our breed. It's part of being a good steward.

That being said a little google research shows me that apparently your pup came from a kennel in FLA that I would at best decribe as "commercial". Now I do not know this kennel or its owners so I am not speaking about them but I have found in the past most "commerical" breeders are more interested in moving "product" ( dogs, pups, stud fees) than spending a lot of time educating. IF that is the case here then you have to move on to other venues.

While the PDB is a great resource it is an open db and does require some knowledge of lines and timelines to know if a pedigree is reasonably accurate. I would suggest you start with getting a certified AKC 4 generation pedigree which will give you basic info to go from in researching. Since AKC does not list working titles or foreign titles you may want to invest in a pedigree from a search service which does have foreign stud books and title info- in your case particularly from Eastern Europe.

The harder part in such a quest is finding folks who actually knew the dogs and can tell you the good and BAD things about them ( and all dogs have both!)

I could not find anything on dog #4. Dogs 1 to 3 are all West German Hi-lines ( show dogs), even tho they were bred in Yugoslavia, Czechslovakia and I suspect the third SFR is supposed to be SER for Serbia.

If you were looking for a working dog it is not the strongest pedigree in that regard since 1. It seems to be totally show lines and 2. Many of these dogs were only able to get to the 1 level ( Sch3, IPO3, VPG 3 is the top level). The pedigree suggests you likely have a pretty black and red pup with low to moderate drives - BUT keep in mind dogs don't read pedigrees or xrays and can surprise us with what they bring to the table. The trick is to find what YOUR dog is good at and go for it - whether it's Schutzhund, herding ( my favorite) , obedience, agility, flyball, tracking etc etc

I wish you good luck on your journey both with researching your dog's pedigree and the journey with you new GSD, Keep us posted and let us know what you are working the pup in.

by Mackzar on 22 June 2011 - 00:06

You guys are thes best! Thanks so much for taking the time to help me.


by noddi on 22 June 2011 - 09:06

good morning.Isnt it great to come onto a thread n see ppl.going out of their way n with no malice/nastiness,to help someone in their quest for knowledge/information.Well done guys.Carole Spelman Rheinmeister gsds (england)

cage

by cage on 22 June 2011 - 12:06

2.       SV V1Kkl 1of V Opus z Agiru Bohemia- DN 20256101 AKC DNA # V509374 (CZR) -

I think it should be SVV 1 not SV V1.
SVV 1 is a title similar to SchH 1, the dog passed the trial in Slovakia. The V before the name stands for excellent,vorzuglich. This dog is from Czech Republic as I see from the kennel name as well as CZR stands for Czech republic.
Marcela





 


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