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by ggturner on 29 March 2011 - 23:03
Just curious, who pays for the AI, the stud owner or bitch owner? Or, does the stud owner pay for AI collection and bitch owner pay for shipping and insertion?
by Niesia on 30 March 2011 - 01:03
Ggturner,
Bitch owner pays for the AI and all the costs associated with it (i.e. testing of the bitch, insemination, etc.) Bitch owner usually pays for shipping as well (usually next-day service, ‘code red’). However some stud owners lower the stud fee to absorb the shipping cost. Bitch owner pays for the extender and shipping as well as for shipping of the ‘cooling box’ back to the stud owner. The stud owner pays for collection/packaging. It is a common practice that if the AI was unsuccessful, next time the bitch is in season, the stud owner provides another semen shipment and the bitch owner pays for all the expenses excluding stud fee and semen collection/packaging.
FYI – Vaginal insemination of fresh extended or frozen semen has only about 50% success rate while transcervical or surgical have about 80% success rate. Doing AI is expensive for the bitch owner and it makes a lot of sense to go into a little more expense (than vaginal AI) and to make the odds of pregnancy much greater.
Bitch owner pays for the AI and all the costs associated with it (i.e. testing of the bitch, insemination, etc.) Bitch owner usually pays for shipping as well (usually next-day service, ‘code red’). However some stud owners lower the stud fee to absorb the shipping cost. Bitch owner pays for the extender and shipping as well as for shipping of the ‘cooling box’ back to the stud owner. The stud owner pays for collection/packaging. It is a common practice that if the AI was unsuccessful, next time the bitch is in season, the stud owner provides another semen shipment and the bitch owner pays for all the expenses excluding stud fee and semen collection/packaging.
FYI – Vaginal insemination of fresh extended or frozen semen has only about 50% success rate while transcervical or surgical have about 80% success rate. Doing AI is expensive for the bitch owner and it makes a lot of sense to go into a little more expense (than vaginal AI) and to make the odds of pregnancy much greater.
by ggturner on 30 March 2011 - 12:03
Thanks Niesia for the information.
by ggturner on 30 March 2011 - 12:03
Thanks Niesia for the information.
by Pharaoh on 30 March 2011 - 17:03
Yes, Ron Hudson, I had been in contact with the Simons for quite a few years.
They were so kind as to send me pictures of David and shared many funny stories about him. I owned a David grandson who was (like his mother) a dead ringer for David in looks and temperament. He was certainly one of a kind.
David was a Don Rolandsteich son, and through his mother, inherited all that great Baruther land stuff. Stuff that the current DDR dogs are greatly in need of.
He gave the rights to the sperm and several dogs, to his protege before he died. Unfortunately, the protege had a congenital heart defect and died too young.
The rest is a shaggy dog story. I'll spare you the details. The title has passed legally to someone else who has gone throught the AKC process and the offspring, someday, will be registered to AKC. Hopefully, through the miracle of modern science, reaching into the past like time travel, that lost bloodline will be found.
Michele
They were so kind as to send me pictures of David and shared many funny stories about him. I owned a David grandson who was (like his mother) a dead ringer for David in looks and temperament. He was certainly one of a kind.
David was a Don Rolandsteich son, and through his mother, inherited all that great Baruther land stuff. Stuff that the current DDR dogs are greatly in need of.
He gave the rights to the sperm and several dogs, to his protege before he died. Unfortunately, the protege had a congenital heart defect and died too young.
The rest is a shaggy dog story. I'll spare you the details. The title has passed legally to someone else who has gone throught the AKC process and the offspring, someday, will be registered to AKC. Hopefully, through the miracle of modern science, reaching into the past like time travel, that lost bloodline will be found.
Michele
by Louise M. Penery on 30 March 2011 - 22:03
I've had semen from my own two males collected and frozen. Considering that a surgical AI is mandatory with the use of frozen semen, who the heck is going to use this semen.
by Niesia on 30 March 2011 - 23:03
Louise,
Who said that it is mandatory to use surgical AI with the use of frozen semen? From what I know - surgical has the highest success rate, but transervical is comparable and you can always try and do vaginal. Some bitches get pregnant just by looking at the male…
Surgical AI is pretty drastic, I have to agree. I would go transcervical - just time it really well with progesterone testing. One upside of surgical AI is that the vet can determine the 'look' of uterus and if he’s experienced he'll know if the breeding will be most likely successful.
I wish I could collect and freeze my bitch’s ova’s for future use in surrogate mothers…
Who said that it is mandatory to use surgical AI with the use of frozen semen? From what I know - surgical has the highest success rate, but transervical is comparable and you can always try and do vaginal. Some bitches get pregnant just by looking at the male…
Surgical AI is pretty drastic, I have to agree. I would go transcervical - just time it really well with progesterone testing. One upside of surgical AI is that the vet can determine the 'look' of uterus and if he’s experienced he'll know if the breeding will be most likely successful.
I wish I could collect and freeze my bitch’s ova’s for future use in surrogate mothers…
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