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Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 11 January 2011 - 03:01

Jenni, what's the difference? Do you think the court or the plaintiff's attorney sees any difference between sport and "real life" training?

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 11 January 2011 - 04:01

Fredo


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 11 January 2011 - 04:01

Kim, "Never let anyone outside the family know what you're thinking."

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 11 January 2011 - 04:01

My apologies Godfather

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 11 January 2011 - 07:01

SSG -I will end this thread by saying;

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man or woman in an argument.

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 11 January 2011 - 12:01

Indeed.

SportySchGuy

by SportySchGuy on 11 January 2011 - 14:01

True....all of Jen's sport dog videos contradict her statement!  Shameful Jen just shameful. I think Jen needs to be choked out so she can achieve a calm submissive state. She is DEFINITELY a "red zone" case.

PL........you win........ as usual. 

by duke1965 on 11 January 2011 - 14:01

overhere , the court will see a difference if you tell the dog to go bite , or if the dog responds to a threat by himself and you tell him to out afterwards
this goes also for a policeofficer or  securitypeople , crowdcontrol etc

thats why I want that type of dogs that you only need to  use control commands , that doesnot mean you dont do bitetraining offcourse

by desert dog on 11 January 2011 - 16:01

Keith, I think in responce to you're original topic. Why do so many people think they need a Personal Protection dog is because the term personal protection has become a generic term not associated with
with any personal requirements. It's off topic but Personal protection vs property protection, or just a pet or companion dog that has some degree of inherant protection are all being discussed as being the same dog.
hank

Prager

by Prager on 11 January 2011 - 16:01

Jeni for that reason we do not place any "real life"  type scenarios on our wwws. We do not want to arouse attention of special interest wacko groups.

Pirate Lair
What I have meant is this. 
 For thousands of years the dogs were living with  and working for their masters. They performed certain  tasks like hunting, herding and protection... These dogs were performing these tasks based on an necessity and genetic make up which resulted form selective breeding. They learned from watching another dog ( monkey see, monkey do), they learned because they were observing their master and knew what pleased him and what did not. Than "good" dogs were kept and promoted through breeding and the other were eliminated. There was no training of a grip,. if the dog grabbed well the bad guy of wolf well master appreciate it and praised the dog and bred such dog. If the dog performed recall because the master was calling him off the mater praised him and if not master punished  him and if the dog was able to learn from that he was promoted and subsequently bred. It was the  same thing  if the dog was good hunter, hound , protector herder and so on.  
We can tap into thousands of years of this treasure by living with such good dogs. Yes we need to teach them to come and stay and down . And yes we can build on top of it with additional training but there is nothing better then the training by life where there is almost telepathic relationship between the master and the dog which i have experienced so often with my personal dogs.  If we train a dog without such relationship, then all we have is a tool like screw driver. And I personally rather  have naturally trained good dog attuned to me than machine trained tool like dog without such relationship.
 That is what I am talking about.
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