Heeling/Fussing stick

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by sueincc on 06 December 2010 - 14:12

Has anyone tried or considered using one of these? Pros and Cons?

http://www.siriustrainer.com/gear/ob%20stick/obstick.htm

or

http://www.siriustrainer.com/gear/guidestick/touchstick.htm

or

http://www.averysportingdog.com/products/TrainingGear.php
(scroll down to the stick)

by Mystere on 06 December 2010 - 15:12

I have used a riding "bat" in the past, but NOT for correction, as these sticks are described. What IS the correction they are talking about -whacking the dog on the hip with a stick? I used the bat as a guide: placed in front of the dog to discourage forging or to my side for crowding. Didn't work so well, btw. That might have been inconsistency on my part. W

by sueincc on 06 December 2010 - 15:12

Using a "chuck it" launcher:

by Nans gsd on 06 December 2010 - 15:12

Not used those but I do use a riding crop; various lengths when teaching the heel/fuss as an extension of my arm; they learn to stay back behind the crop. Works really nice as my guys ALL tend to want to be leading so I try to keep them back with crop. Works great. Best of luck Nan

by DeesWolf on 06 December 2010 - 16:12

I used one that belonged to a club member a few years ago. I LOVED it! it worked great, was easy to handle, and required barely a pop for a correction. I have actually been looking for a few years to find one, as I really think it was a great tool. Thank you for posting links to it, I am on my way to order one now!!

by VonIsengard on 06 December 2010 - 16:12

I have used a thin riding crop or even a dowel rod in a similar fashion. Also great for keeping a dog's rear in while teaching them to heel backward, for front/left finishes, and I used one to fine tune my UD dog on her fronts. I will use it to teach a left turn/circle to a dog who is adamant about sitting during the turn or refuses to move their back end at all.

Keep in mind that a heeling stick should never be used on a dog who has stick problems in their bitework, due to bad experience or otherwise. Also, it is a completely ineffective tool for some dogs. My old girl never gave a rats you-know-what about a heeling stick

by SitasMom on 06 December 2010 - 16:12

amazing video demonstration!
when my dogs see a chuck it stick they almost pee with excitement, it play time. guess i'd have to use a riding crop or something else. LOL

by Elkoorr on 06 December 2010 - 17:12

Used a simple stick (for supporting plants) to make my dogs more aware of their rear ends by tipping on it on left turns. However, eventual they will become a bit stick-smart. You need to couple it with your left arm swinging back if used for the heeling.
Seen the one with the small lead attached used by folks in our AKC club for small dogs very effectively. Enables them to give corrections while standing up straight while proving for the CD titles. It does not work so well on larger dogs. Watch out for good quality though.

by nonacona60 on 06 December 2010 - 19:12

Just as Mystere, Nan gsd and Kczaja, we also have used a riding crop in training, NEVER for correction....There was a discussion about us using it a few months ago on here, and we were roasted and chastised for doing it....Glad to see others with experience have used it also.....As long as its used in the proper manner there shouldn't be a problem with using it...

by judron55 on 06 December 2010 - 20:12

most people I know use a piece of PVC pipe:-)

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