Orwell / Pls critique - Page 1

 Orwell z noveho Draka is now 15 months old, he is 63 cms high and weighs 37 kgs. He was critiqued at 5/6 months old, here is the link:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum/27446.html?pagen=1#27549

Here is the link to his pedigree:

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/631653.html

I am requesting you to critique him/ give your thoughts of his conformation and structure the good as well as the bad. Thanks a lot

Ibrahim

Again another excellent male. Chapeau Ibrahim, very good choice.

 To make it more interesting, here is the picture of the previous thread when he was about 5 months plus some opinions in sequence, let us see from your new opinions how he developed to the better or to the worse.



I like his shoulders and top line  Sitasmom

He looks to have good bone, a nice shoulder, maybe a tad short in the forearm. His thigh is long but his rear does not appear to be over angulated. I like his head, expression and ears. Nice neck, chest and topline. Very shiny coat, he looks to be in good condition. He looks broad across the chest, a good solid looking dog. Very nice.Deb

To me ,for his age he looks super and to top it up,he's got some excellent
working bloodlines. I 'm convinced after seeing his pedigree , that this dog
will grow up ,having a very good structure and working qualities ,
subject to proper upbringing. please do not try to do too much and never imprint fear ,
until he has matured.

Please note that I'm very new and trying to
learn about the different working bloodlines.
Could those who are well versed in
working bloodlines please help out.

Looking at the photos' I would critique him as such :-

Good size, medium strong bi-coloured dog of very type with good bone and good proportions.
Showing a strong head , with very good expression ,well placed ears and dark eyes.
High withers , a firm back , with a croup of good lay but slighty short
and a very good topline which will strengthen with age.
The front angulations are very good,with a good lay of the upper arm.
The hind angulations are correct , with the hocks well let down
and proportionate length of bones,(hocks , lower thigh and upper thigh bones ).
Shows a good width and depth of chest , with good length of fore leg.

Please remember that he is only 5 mths.old and
he will be going through an a rapid growth period.
You will see changes in the structure , until he reaches maturity. Sonora


I too noticed the excellent layback on his front and with his angulation. Pharao

I really like his blocky head...it ought to be pretty impressive when he's full grown. Also I agree about his shoulders, best I've seen in awhile. VomMarischal

Nice looking kid you have. Lovely head and expression, good length in neck. Especially noting the forchest which is not usually as well developed in a pup that age, same for the width of thigh. Good bone and substance, nice shoulders. A bit long, but carries the length in the ribcage rather than the loin so shouldn't compromise his movment. I'd like to see his tail carriage when moving, might be just a tweek high set, butdoes not detract from the overall picture of the pup. Can't tell anything about feet/pasterns as that's hidden in the grass... nothing to suggest any problem. Widwalker18

He'll be a looker when he matures. Love those boy GSD's! ShadyLady

Lovely topline, croup & tailset.  He is a bit over stretched in some of the pics but I see good angulation both front and rear.  Nice balance overall.  Nice masculine head and expression.  Nice ear set, tight lips.  Strong neck flowing into strong shoulders.  Broad thru the chest, maybe a bit too broad...his elbows appear turned out in the strait on standing pic.  His front pasterns look straight in a couple of pics making his front feet appear odd but it may just be the positioning because they look better in the other pics.  His back feet are tight, his front may be a bit splayed but again it could be the surface he is standing on.  Overall I'd say he is a very nice dog.  But he is not done growing yet.  He is going to be one big fellow with lots of muscle when he fills out.  He should be very powerful.   I notice he is very aware of his surroundings in the series of pics.  I like the 3rd pic down best even tho he is overstretched.  It's a nice portrait of the dog and shows him at his best of those shown.    

Very handsome dog Ibrahim!

 DebiSue,

I always keep my breath till I'm finished reading the whole of your critique, lol. I learned my lesson very well on the feet from you and from Red Sable, I can confidently tell you that his feet are okay (not the best) but good, he is standing on a rough un level ground with small and bigger stones, in one of the pictures his left front leg is tilted due to that plus the farmer positioning then repositioning him and stopping him from moving. So do not be worried about these two issues and I say the same to other possible posters.

And this time I am happy you say his lips are tight and you did not mention a fleshy throat (throaty) and this is a good accomplishment on this one. As usual you are very nice to provide your honest thoughts.

Ibrahim

            Ibrahim,,,

                  First thing that catches my eye is is his handsome head. He has a very strong and confident expression...I agree with Debisue that he is a bit over stretched, but does appear to be nicely balanced. He is definitely a strong/sturdy built male, looks a lot like he did when he was a pup, just more mature...His top line and tail set are pleasing to the eye,,,,,The more I look at him the more I like him....I do not see anything unpleasant about this male......He is a fine male.........Enjoy.....

                   Deanna...: )

Ibrahim,

You have a Pike's brother in his pedigree..this is
good.  Karlo...best son and one of the best producers
of working dogs.

Dogs like Pike, Aly, Yoschy, Fado....will put snap in the
bloodline.

Orry and Tom will put snap and crackle...

My favorite Magic cross is Aly and Pike..this is
a slam dunk for breeding...especially if you also have Orry.

You have some good Czech lines there, and
Hans would be the one to talk to.

For conformation I look at the dentition, hips and lean muscle
mass.... I am not a show person but the proportions of the
dogs frame are important to me....Hope that helps.

Ibrahim... Very nice dog you have there!!!
I'd say he was a bit overstreched in some of the pics, but other than that....
Very nice impressive head, and ears, calm and confident expression
Good structure, correct angulation, he sure isn't done growing!!!
Nice pedigree, teach him not to bite the leash.
What is his temperment like?.....            Aline.... :)

 Mainly Max,

That is more than I could ask for, thank so much, I appreciate it.

Ibrahim