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Don DeLeon

by Don DeLeon on 17 November 2010 - 15:11

Greetings, Has anyone enough time in the breed to have seen the association of panosteitis and certain blood lines.  I have researched pano but, was wondering if more lines had it prevalent or not. Only a thought.  As always, thank you in advance.

                                             Don D.,Ramona,CA


                                                     


Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 17 November 2010 - 16:11

 Specific bloodlines or just general, like DDR, Czech, West, etc.?

I do think there's a genetic component, not necessarily direct heredity, but more the likelihood of a certain body type to develop it. Then again, littermates are often affected, so who knows exactly? 

I have also been told by someone in the breed far longer than I, that a prenatal vitamin given throughout pregnancy and nursing all but eliminates pano in the pups. If not, a prenatal vitamin given to the affected pup works like a charm. 

While it's no fun for the dog, I do think people tend to overreact about it. 

by DannyJ on 17 November 2010 - 16:11

Pano can be a pain. I would definately associate it some with genetics... I had a particular female who would throw a little to a lot in every litter I bred her. I believe it does take both parents to bring it out.
Because I have bred to males that were known for throwing pano to a bitch that was OK for it and nothing

Who knows at the end of day, genetics, nutrition, certain upbringing.... Ask me again in 10 years and I'm sure the opinion would be different.

Would be interested in any research on these vitamins

Dan Juros

by B.Andersen on 17 November 2010 - 19:11

I think genetic as well. Pain in the butt to train through. It hurts when training a young dog as it is best to lay them off.

Lief

by Lief on 17 November 2010 - 22:11

yeah I'm pretty sure that is deemed genetic, dogs that produce it will usually do it more than once you should email OFA and ask Dr Keller. they denote pano on reports even in asypmtomatic dogs I'd think they would have some data

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 18 November 2010 - 07:11

I have heard that Alopurinol can control outbreaks. You'd have to consult a vet for Rx and dosage. I heard that a father / son vet hospital in Washington state used this. I believe their name was Smith.

It IS a genetic predisposition and travels in certain lines. Although there is no permanent arthritic damage, as is the case with HD, it seems to be triggered by metabolic stress and can really put a dog out of commission, and is not always limited to the growth / juvenile phase of life. I've seen it flare up as late as 3.5 years of life.

You can pretty easily diagnose it without radiographic processes, if you know how. Not saying that this is 100%, but close enough if there is no need for an professional opinion.

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 18 November 2010 - 07:11

For what it is worth....


We avoid Pano by feeding our pups (up until 1 year of age) with 2 TSP of high protein Yogurt with every meal.

The cheapest brand of Yogurt usally has the most protein.

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 18 November 2010 - 07:11

Sorry, I forgot to add....

We also breed very carefully selected dogs based on their Pedigree.

You either understand and agree, or you might not want to breed GSD's


Rik

by Rik on 18 November 2010 - 12:11

I'm with the "genetic" crowd. And I have dealt with this issue quite a bit in the past.

Rik





 


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