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hamza166

by hamza166 on 03 October 2010 - 16:10

This is what my dad thinks that dogs should be for and what they should be doing. He thinks that they are not meant to be in houses as pets or show dogs etc. But used for what they provide a purpose for and what they were originally bred for.

I also think so. Here is a video that i showed him and he agreed. He said this is the original use of border collies and the other collie mixes and what they should still be doing.




I will post more videos of what dogs should really be used for when i find some.

Anythign to say?

Two Moons

by Two Moons on 03 October 2010 - 16:10

Since I can only stand waiting for one page to load here on this screwed up website I chose this thread hamza, Here's my offering, I can't embed or post a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2FX9rviEhw This has been posted before.

hamza166

by hamza166 on 03 October 2010 - 18:10

Thank you for your time Two Moons.

I shall take a look at that video

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 03 October 2010 - 19:10

"He thinks that they are not meant to be in houses as pets or show dogs etc.  But used for what they provide a purpose for and what they were originally bred for.

I also think so."

Then don't get one unless you have cattle or sheep.  While I enjoy training and watching dogs work, they have a lot to offer off the field as well.

by beetree on 03 October 2010 - 19:10

That rigid of a view does not allow for change, or adaption which is the kiss of death, evolutionarily speaking.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 03 October 2010 - 20:10

Hamza,
What work do your dogs do?  What do you and your dad do with your dogs?

Jim

starrchar

by starrchar on 03 October 2010 - 21:10

Hamza, You are very much entitled to your opinion, although I don't agree. This is 2010 and MANY things have changed since dogs were developed specifically for jobs. The average person here in the US doesn't have much to offer in the way of jobs for a dog anymore. Most live in suburbs.  Although I have two acres, I don't have livestock anymore. My dogs live in the house with me and they are my companions. They do provide some protection for me and my family and they are also both working therapy dogs, but that is not my primary reason for having them.  I personally can not imagine my life without dogs. They give me tremendous pleasure and I provide an excellent life for them. It is a win-win. I think that if a dog needs a job, which many GSDs do, then one should be given, whether it is in the way of a true job, a dog sport or just a jogging partner, but to say that the ONLY reason to have a dog is if it can do a job that it was originally developed for is something I can't agree with.  

What type of work do your dogs do and where do they live?

GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 04 October 2010 - 14:10

 I guess police departments need to start raising sheep now since suspect apprehension and narcotics searches are not what they were meant to do.  Dang, and all this time I thought they were doing a good job.......Sorry, that may be your opinion, but I know a lot of elderly women who gladly enjoy the company of a GSD for protection and companionship.   Dogs are great for human therapy, not just in the house, but to visit children in hospitals, and other people with disabilities.  Not to mention they can help serve people who are disabled (but since dogs aren't suppose to be inside, I guess we throw that one out.........),  they can protect,  they can track the criminal, take down a bad guy, find narcotics quicker than any human.

 

But hey like you said, they're meant to live outside and heard sheep, who needs the rest of that anyway........


by beetree on 04 October 2010 - 16:10


Whiskey, the last surviving specimen of a turnspit dog, albeit stuffed.

From Wikipedia:

by beetree on 04 October 2010 - 16:10

 From Wikipedia:

The Vernepator Cur was bred to run on a wheel in order to turn meat so it would cook evenly. This took both courage (to stand near the fire) and loyalty (not to eat the roast). Due to the strenuous nature of the work, a pair of dogs would often be worked in shifts. This may have led to the proverb ‘every dog has his day.’ The dogs were also taken to church to serve as foot warmers. One story says that during service at a church in Bath, the Bishop of Gloucester, gave a sermon and uttered the line “It was then that Ezekiel saw the wheel…”. At the mention of the word “wheel” several turnspit dogs, who had been brought to church as foot warmers, ran for the door.

 





 


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