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by prasac on 24 July 2010 - 06:07

Can someone help me understand line breeding? what is close and too close in it?

I saw this dog on the website. I may be wrong but isn't he closely linebred:

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/555190.html

by oso on 24 July 2010 - 14:07

2,2 - this is closer than is usually permitted by the SV (closest 3,2), not sure what country this dog comes from or whether they have different regulations, but Stormfront´s Brawnson would have to be a truly outstanding example to try something like this....

by PowerHaus on 24 July 2010 - 14:07

Stormfront Brawnson has some horrible hip production! I wouldn't touch that with a 100 foot pole! Just go to the OFA website and look! Then go to the SV Germany website and see what his ZW score is! It used to be really high! Brawnson may have been a good dog in his own right but I have only seen a couple dogs out of him that were nice dogs, Stuka being one of them....I have seen plenty that were just plain shitters. One that was very poor, hardly passed her BH. The other is just a mentally unstable dog!

This is just my opinion but I am sure Held will come along and tell you I am an idiot. He usually raises his ugly head when I write something un-complimentary about Brawnson. He must have owned the dog or have progeny out of him.......because he takes it way way too personal.

Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com

by k9winnie on 24 July 2010 - 15:07

this is not linebreeding, it is inbreeding.

by prasac on 24 July 2010 - 16:07

@k9winnie,

how could this be inbreeding? as far as i know inbreeding would be mating a dog to his daughter or a female to her own son, wouldnt it?

i m not expert on this but i know a lot of people on this board r and probably they can clear it up a bit more.

anyways, the question that i posted was not to trigger any spark, so to say, b/w people on this board. i want to be very clear in my intentions & those were precisely to learn more from the experiences of the people on this board.

thanks everyone for answering my question.

by Keith Grossman on 24 July 2010 - 19:07

It is inbreeding to breed two dogs who share a common parent.

by oso on 24 July 2010 - 19:07

technically inbreeding refers to breeding beween any close relations, this would be inbreeding.

by Vikram on 24 July 2010 - 23:07

prasac,

In Line-breeding, the breeding male and female are chosen from the same bloodline of origin and every dog not belonging to that line is excluded in the breeding. In simple terms you are strengthening a particular bloodline in line-breeding and breeding upon it.

In in breeding , it is breeding of closely matched dogs in 2nd upto 5 th generation. Inherently you are creating a line on which you can later do line-breeding.

The example you have quoted is an inbreeding example.

by michael49 on 25 July 2010 - 00:07

I'm far from and expert on the subject, but it's my understanding that imbreeding consists of breeding a mother to her son, a father to his daughter or a full brother and sister. This dog in my opinion is a very tight linebred dog, some may disagree but like I said this is my understanding and the technical description as far as akc is concerned.

by VonIsengard on 25 July 2010 - 04:07

It is also permissible for a dog to be 2-2 on littermates rather than the same dog, for SV registration.

In my very meager experience, linebreeding from the third generation forward should only be done by the very experienced breeder who understands fully the pros and cons the dog they are linebreeding on.

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