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by Jon luc on 09 April 2010 - 21:04
I was the last one to post, so I will try to remember what I said.
" For the record my post are my post, I have not received any PM's from anyone, even Phil and he said he would.
Any time a child takes their life it is tragic, very sad. The people who were close to her said
she was under a great deal of fear. Whether people call you names, Bully, troll, shit, it means
nothing , because you know what you know and no one can take that away from you by calling
a name."
Since I posted on that thread, I have got some very good PM's, one from Phil.
This thread was posted by Maggie the day before yesterday and she said she did
not delete it. With the other crap I have read this just puzzled me.
It is like the whole world has just got rotten, and everybody is a little guilty.

by DDR-DSH on 09 April 2010 - 21:04

by GSDtravels on 09 April 2010 - 22:04
It is very sad that a young girl felt desparate enough to take her own life. That said, bullies should not be able to bring you to such a state, young or old. Evidently, she didn't have enough self-esteem to be able to speak to someone - her parents and those "close" to her. Children are coddled way too much and I think that's part of the problem. Everything has to be equal now and nobody can lose at anything, lest others bruise their ego. Thus, egos are not only more easily bruised, now there is no experience as ammunition to fight it. Now, we're blaming suicide on others! Hello! Suicide is a choice, pity or not. She didn't have the right guidance to know or see that it wasn't the only choice, and that it would pass. The girl needed help and either didn't know how or where to get it, or was ill to begin and nobody "close" to her saw the signs. You will lose and be bullied all of your life, unless you have enough power or money. You must learn to deal with the toughest parts of your life and move on. Personal responsibility and self worth are what should be taught, and standing up for yourself, or moving aside. If there's anyone to blame, it's the school, the parents and the close family friends who should have known her well enough to read the signs... not make the bullies go away, but teach her how to face them. I know that may be easier said than done, but in the end, it's what makes us strong enough to face the next battle, for the rest of our lives. JMHO
by beetree on 09 April 2010 - 22:04
Bullying in US schools has actually dropped since intensive anti-bullying programs have been introduced after the Columbine massacre. Any death of a teenager is tragic. This one has a cruel element that makes us face the ugly side of humanity, and perhaps that is what Jon Luc means by us all being a "little guilty."

by DDR-DSH on 09 April 2010 - 22:04

by GSDtravels on 09 April 2010 - 22:04
by Jon luc on 09 April 2010 - 22:04
by VomMarischal on 09 April 2010 - 22:04

by 4pack on 09 April 2010 - 22:04
by Luvmidog on 09 April 2010 - 23:04
VomMarischal: We as adults are also gulible. Seems we have been on here, too.
Are you speaking of this forum post today on the German shepherd side? Many here chimed in with him in his bullying of Hamsza, even though the young man did wrong.
This man was and is dangerous. He showed some very radical threats to a lady named Annamay, claiming to be a judge, on here last year only to be discovered to go kill his gsd and pups after being arrested ., according to this post on here.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/user_comments/506593.html
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/forum/38972.html
Todays posting is entitled ? the lady and the Judge by Jackie German shepherd forum Is this the BAZZA we have seen on here???
Shocking indeed
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