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by Jantie on 15 January 2010 - 07:01
Hi all!
Haven't been this way for a while, busy creating my website, but everybody remembers Pedigree Dogs Exposed and all?
Now take this!
breedinginquiry.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/final-dog-inquiry-120110.pdf
Enjoy!
Jan Demeyere
Soon online: www.gsd-legends.eu
Haven't been this way for a while, busy creating my website, but everybody remembers Pedigree Dogs Exposed and all?
Now take this!
breedinginquiry.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/final-dog-inquiry-120110.pdf
Enjoy!
Jan Demeyere
Soon online: www.gsd-legends.eu
by vivek on 15 January 2010 - 14:01
I studied genetics(elementary) before I bred my first litter. I have been through 15 years of Dog World (UK&USA) before starting breeding. I was fortunate in the second instance and my genetics learning was planned by me.
The articles only puts into print what many of us knew all along. We have tampered and ruined the sound and healthy breeds we were given by our breeders of a bygone era..
The average breeder or any breeder need not read this piece as long as they don't inbreed their animals as long as they have a such inbreeding is not mandatorily prohibited by those in power namely the FCI and all it's affliated clubs.
The biggest criminals are the judges who have failed to keep in their mind's eye a verh clear vision of what constitutes a good animal, what constitutes a sound animal, what constitutes an unexagerrated animal and what constitutes the qualities needed in a particular breed to keep it fit for the work it was originally designed and bred for.
So many novice breeders fall into a trap by having the wrong role models as their ideal.as a perfect example of their breed.
And the powers that be need to plead guilty.
The articles only puts into print what many of us knew all along. We have tampered and ruined the sound and healthy breeds we were given by our breeders of a bygone era..
The average breeder or any breeder need not read this piece as long as they don't inbreed their animals as long as they have a such inbreeding is not mandatorily prohibited by those in power namely the FCI and all it's affliated clubs.
The biggest criminals are the judges who have failed to keep in their mind's eye a verh clear vision of what constitutes a good animal, what constitutes a sound animal, what constitutes an unexagerrated animal and what constitutes the qualities needed in a particular breed to keep it fit for the work it was originally designed and bred for.
So many novice breeders fall into a trap by having the wrong role models as their ideal.as a perfect example of their breed.
And the powers that be need to plead guilty.
by Jantie on 16 January 2010 - 11:01
Very good post Vivek, I agree with you.
Further to your quote: "The average breeder or any breeder need not read this piece as long as they don't inbreed their animals as long as they have a such inbreeding is not mandatorily prohibited by those in power namely the FCI and all it's affliated clubs."
I think the GSD-breeder should give the subject some attention, in the following respect:
Are they aware of the fact that in recent GSD-history, more or less since Uran com Wildsteiger Land 1984,
16 Siegers come over Quanto von der Wienerau, 6 of them have won the title twice, so they cover 22 years of SV-breeding.
Only 3 dogs come over Canto von der Wienerau, Fanto has won the title twice, so we cover another 4 years here.
Summarizing:
The last 26 Conformation Siegers of the SV are based on 2 dogs, well, if you will allow me generalizing, basically (except for the occasional one) on 1 dog only, Quanto von der Wienerau.
(A nice chart documenting this particular case (Quanto) will be on my website.)
How bad is that? Now is this a Bottleneck or isn’t it?
Conformation-wise, there is only one single blood line left!
I think this is enough proof for the fact that the SV does not live up to its statutes and its goals. The successive SV-Breed Wardens are telling us they are making sure the breed is based on a wide pool of genes. Nonsense! They are just contiously crowning the next generation out of the lineages of the former Siegers. Nothing more, nothing less.
A very bad thing indeed!
Further to your quote: "The average breeder or any breeder need not read this piece as long as they don't inbreed their animals as long as they have a such inbreeding is not mandatorily prohibited by those in power namely the FCI and all it's affliated clubs."
I think the GSD-breeder should give the subject some attention, in the following respect:
Are they aware of the fact that in recent GSD-history, more or less since Uran com Wildsteiger Land 1984,
16 Siegers come over Quanto von der Wienerau, 6 of them have won the title twice, so they cover 22 years of SV-breeding.
Only 3 dogs come over Canto von der Wienerau, Fanto has won the title twice, so we cover another 4 years here.
Summarizing:
The last 26 Conformation Siegers of the SV are based on 2 dogs, well, if you will allow me generalizing, basically (except for the occasional one) on 1 dog only, Quanto von der Wienerau.
(A nice chart documenting this particular case (Quanto) will be on my website.)
How bad is that? Now is this a Bottleneck or isn’t it?
Conformation-wise, there is only one single blood line left!
I think this is enough proof for the fact that the SV does not live up to its statutes and its goals. The successive SV-Breed Wardens are telling us they are making sure the breed is based on a wide pool of genes. Nonsense! They are just contiously crowning the next generation out of the lineages of the former Siegers. Nothing more, nothing less.
A very bad thing indeed!
by Jonah1 on 16 January 2010 - 14:01
Jante this is excellent stuff !. Good on ya !.
by Jantie on 16 January 2010 - 16:01
I think so too Jonah1.
Let me insert a piece of the introduction so people can put it into perspective, some people on this Database have fiercefully attacked Jemima Harrison for the documentary which they thought was superfluous, some have argued very pityfully on this board, but Jemima was just a messenger and opened at least a few eyes (huge understatement totally intended)...
By Patrick Bateson from the University of Cambridge:
“The background to the Inquiry was a showing by the BBC on 19 August 2008 of a television documen tary called Pedigree Dogs Exposed. It was a hard-hitting piece of journalism written and directed by Jemima Harrison. It was aimed at those breeders of pedigree dogs who had ignored the adverse effects of inbreeding and particularly those who were breeding for extreme conformations. The United Kingdom’s premiere dog club, the Kennel Club, felt that it had been unfairly treated and complained to OfCom, the regulator of the UK Communications industry. At the time of writing, this dispute has not been set tled. Nevertheless, the BBC pulled out of its long-standing arrangement to televise Crufts dog show. Moreover, the public reaction was such that Dogs Trust, the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cru elty to Animals and the People’s Dispensary for Sick Animals ended their support; and Pedigree Petfoods and Hills Pet Nutrition cancelled their sponsorship of the show. The Associate Parliamentary Group on Animal Welfare (APGAW) announced that it would hold hearings on the breeding of pedigree dogs. At the same time the Kennel Club combined forces with a leading dog charity, Dogs Trust, and announced an independent Inquiry into the breeding of all dogs…”
If you got a minute or so to spare, please do go ahead and read it. People will soon start feeling the overall impact.
Keep up the good work all you that strive for healthier dogs!
Let me insert a piece of the introduction so people can put it into perspective, some people on this Database have fiercefully attacked Jemima Harrison for the documentary which they thought was superfluous, some have argued very pityfully on this board, but Jemima was just a messenger and opened at least a few eyes (huge understatement totally intended)...
By Patrick Bateson from the University of Cambridge:
“The background to the Inquiry was a showing by the BBC on 19 August 2008 of a television documen tary called Pedigree Dogs Exposed. It was a hard-hitting piece of journalism written and directed by Jemima Harrison. It was aimed at those breeders of pedigree dogs who had ignored the adverse effects of inbreeding and particularly those who were breeding for extreme conformations. The United Kingdom’s premiere dog club, the Kennel Club, felt that it had been unfairly treated and complained to OfCom, the regulator of the UK Communications industry. At the time of writing, this dispute has not been set tled. Nevertheless, the BBC pulled out of its long-standing arrangement to televise Crufts dog show. Moreover, the public reaction was such that Dogs Trust, the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cru elty to Animals and the People’s Dispensary for Sick Animals ended their support; and Pedigree Petfoods and Hills Pet Nutrition cancelled their sponsorship of the show. The Associate Parliamentary Group on Animal Welfare (APGAW) announced that it would hold hearings on the breeding of pedigree dogs. At the same time the Kennel Club combined forces with a leading dog charity, Dogs Trust, and announced an independent Inquiry into the breeding of all dogs…”
If you got a minute or so to spare, please do go ahead and read it. People will soon start feeling the overall impact.
Keep up the good work all you that strive for healthier dogs!
by Jantie on 24 January 2010 - 10:01
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