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gbrads2010

by gbrads2010 on 31 December 2009 - 22:12

Good advice thankyou

by suzie333 on 01 January 2010 - 19:01

Gbrads2010,  I was told exactly the same thing when I took my 12 week old GSD Pup to the vets some 4 months ago.  The same vet had just given me 6 weeks free insurance and was telling me how important it is that I take out insurance.  I came out the consultansts room in tears and immediatly looked at a poster on the wall advertising insurance and the cost of treating a heart murmur £3000.  The receptionist quitely told me not to worry too much, she said the Vet tells that to most new owners.  I have been back to the surgery 3 times since and seen a different vet each time.  No hear heart murmur has been detected since the first visit.

Hope this helps.

Suzie  

Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 02 January 2010 - 04:01

If it is a mild low grade heart murmur, your pup should outgrow it,

it would be good to find out what degree it is, it does seem like, from what you said that the vet didn't make a big deal out of it, that maybe it's a low grade murmur.
  That's a very good sign that the breeder is communicating with you, and that the murmur was gone and came back sounds like a slight one.

Puppies also sleep ALOT, just like human babies, sometimes you have to check to make sure they are still breathing cause they sleep so soundly! 

Enjoy your pup, she's beautiful!


gbrads2010

by gbrads2010 on 02 January 2010 - 18:01

Thanks. OMG Suzie333 thats exactly how it happened with me. The vet told me my pup has a heart murmur then started banging on about insurance, She gave me 6 weeks insurance and told me that it would not cover the heart.

kkalligher

by kkalligher on 03 January 2010 - 19:01

Heart murmurs usually disappear as the dog ages. I have one with a heart murmur and she is now 14 years old. Still has the murmur and has outlived all her litter mates. I keep her very thin with mild activity. She is going strong. Good Luck. It is not a death sentence.

gbrads2010

by gbrads2010 on 04 January 2010 - 19:01

I went to the vets today to get a second opinian on Jakes murmur and im so glad i did. The vet said the murmur was there then it went, then i gave him a treat and when the heart speeded up it came back but then went again. He said the cause could be his blood still going through the transition from mum's to his. So every time his mums blood passes through the heart it causes what sounds like a murmur. He said if it was a mechanical problem with the heart it would be there all the time so I then asked him to grade it. He graded a guess at level 1 which is great. He also said there is an 8 out of ten chance he will out grow it :) Thanks for all your good advice its much apreciated.


by Micky D on 06 January 2010 - 16:01

 For what it's worth:

http://www.barbarycoastbullterrierclub.org/heart.html 

Many puppies have murmurs, which they grow out of called innocent murmurs. These tend to be very low grade. If these are still present when the puppy is 12-15 weeks old, many veterinary surgeons will want to rule out heart disease. Many athletic dogs also have innocent murmurs called flow murmurs, resulting from the blood leaving the heart. Obviously, there can be a problem distinguishing mild congenital heart disease (which may be significant if the animal is bred) and these innocent murmurs. Further investigation to rule out heart disease is usually required. 

In other words, you most likely have nothing to worry about.  Just have your vet keep an eye on the pup and of course, let your breeder know what's going on.




LAVK-9

by LAVK-9 on 06 January 2010 - 17:01

It is something to keep an eye on.The vet if it is a good one should be able to hear, if it is a good vet, and tell you if it isn't that bad of if something needs to be done. Even as a vet tech I was able to tell when listening to the heart. My GSD had a squeek....yes a squeek in his heart.Scared the daylights out of me.I was so afraid to train him or have him do anything.My boss wasn't worried so I relaxed about it.Later he was getting a check up and my boss didn't mention it.So i asked him "what about the squeek?" He said there wasn't one...so I listned just to make sure he didn't pass it by.Sure enough it was gone.He had grown out of it. I know of someone else that got one of the police dogs we were training when i worked at a dog training place and we washed it out cause a heart murmur.Well the guy that got him for a REAL good price laughed about it cause a few months after having him there wasn't a murmur.So my guess would be that your pup should be fine.It is still growing and things change.Keep an eye on it.Do some research of the parents if you can to see if there is anyone else that has had any problems with getting a pup from that breeder. As we all were novice at some point in time.ASK questions!! I don't care if I annoy the crap out of a breeder with questions.I want to know everything.If you are spending money on something and some thing that is living,you need to know all you can.I don't care if you spent one or one hundred pounds/dollars/euros whatever....the dog is a living thing and you need to know about it. Good luck and give the pup your love.

by Samba on 06 January 2010 - 22:01

A heart murmur is due to an abnormal flow of blood.  Sometimes the conditions that cause it correct themselves during the puppy's development.  My pup had a murmur.  He was not as active as I expected him to be and he tired easily.  Many people would say wait and see, murmurs outgrow etc.  My vet suggested an Echo to diagnose just what was causing the murmur.  There was a heart defect that does not correct itself.  So  a murmur can be "nothing" or something.  A slow, easily tired pup would concern me and an Echo is the way to know for sure.






 


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