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by Mackenzie on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
georgehopwood's comments reminded me of one of my first shows. It was at the League Open Show and the Judge, who was a member of the Committee, placed my dog third in his class. The judge spoke to me afterwards and said that they liked my dog best but "I had to do my apprenticeship first". That was my first big eye opener into dog showing.
regards
Mackenzie
by paulie on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
Contrary to popular belief, attack is not the best form of defence.
Let's agree to differ on the minor points, so long as we stay focused on the greater, bigger picture.
You will read no more from me on this thread.
Regards Paul.
by missbeeb on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
Well... there have to be losers if you want winners & that's a fact! If we all did the first five thing... there would never be more than that in any class... unless I've misunderstood?
It's of paramount importance, that we should be able to trust our judges... we know that we can't trust all of them but I like to think that the majority are straight enough. I really do NOT think that it should be down to the poor bleedin' exhibitor to try to sort this out... on top of: the entry fee, the fuel costs, time off work (?), handler fees etc. Any committee worth its' salt will "employ" good, knowledgeable judges for their Club & exhibitors... surely?
by Sue B on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
And who is attacking you my lovely Paulie>? Just wait while I brush the cobwebs off my big stick and I'l get them for you !!...lol Are you going to Bolton Paulie? All being well want to be there myself , so will hopefully see you there if you are going.
Regards
Sue
by Jeevs on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
The aim of this document is to assist show organisers in understanding their responsibility for briefing judges from overseas officiating in the United Kingdom as laid out in the Kennel Club Guide for Judges and Ring Stewards.
1.1. Invitation to Judges
The suitability of overseas judges to give Kennel Club awards will be assessed in the same way as for a British National. Overseas judges who do not judge a particular breed at Championship Show level in their own country, or are not endorsed by the relevant Kennel Club in their country, or have not gone through our system for our national judges, will not normally be approved to judge that breed with Challenge Certificates in the UK.
• Show Society must confirm this before inviting.
1.2. When the judge has confirmed their eligibility they must be advised in writing of the following:
- All judges officiating at UK Kennel Club licensed events must judge to the Kennel Club Breed Standards and Rules and Regulations and not those of any Kennel Club other than our own. The Judge’s duties in this country cannot be delegated, and they should be aware that double-handling, commentaries and grading are not permitted.
1.3. To assist judges from overseas, inviting societies are required to send them the following booklets:
- A copy of the relevant Kennel Club Breed Standard
- The Guide for Judges and Ring Stewards
1.4. Prior to the Show
- Allocate experienced Ring Stewards to work with the overseas judge(s)
1.5. At the Show
On the evening before or on the day of the show prior to judging, the Show Secretary/Manager, or Chief Steward or other suitably qualified person should brief all the overseas judges officiating at the show on UK judging procedures. This should take approximately 10 minutes and should cover:
- Kennel Club Breed Standards
- Ring Procedures in accordance with the Guide for Judges and Ring Stewards
Summary
- Confirm eligibility to judge the breed(s)
- Send copies of the following booklets to the overseas judge(s)
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- A copy of relevant Kennel Club Breed Standard
- The Guide for Judges and Ring Stewards
- Allocate experienced Ring Stewards
- Brief the overseas judge(s) on UK procedures prior to judging in accordance with the attached notes.
Briefing Notes for Overseas Judges officiating in the United Kingdom
2. All judging in the United Kingdom must be based on the following:
- UK Kennel Club Breed Standards
- The UK Guide for Judges and Ring Stewards
by missbeeb on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
Thank you Jeevs...
by Jeevs on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
As for the judge seeing a catalogue, there is no rule against this in the UK - probably because they could not perceive that any judge would need to see a catalogue as they are there to judge the dogs on the day on merit according to the Breed Standard and therefore no rule would be needed.
As I said in another thread, no matter how much you would like it to be so, you must judge to the UK Breed Standard in this country, not the SV or FCI or any other.
by MissZara on 30 March 2009 - 15:03
by missbeeb on 30 March 2009 - 16:03
It clearly is, MissZara. He should have been "put straight" about our rules and regs... failing that (God help us) he should at LEAST have judged EVERY class on the same basis.
by Jeevs on 30 March 2009 - 16:03
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