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by sportstuff on 28 April 2005 - 03:04
Many people emailed etc and wanted continued posts from people and their opinions about which are the best kennels.....Please continue your input as per my prior post and please remember this is not intended to be a bashing for any kennels.
Please just give your experiences with various kennels that you like and why and mention your own if you have one and maybe what you offer others don't.
You can click on my username and then click on best kennels anywhere to either add there or see ones already spoke about.
Respectfully,
Dan
sportstuff
by sportstuff on 28 April 2005 - 04:04
I have spoke with and heard many people that highly recommend a kennel in Canada "Bullinger Shepherds" as a kennel that can be trusted and are helpful/truthful.
Another in the U.S.A I also heard was good was www.steffen-haus.com however I don't know that they are still actively selling or not but I hear they are reducing their kennel.
Also one located in Germany who kept their word A-Z on everything said that I personally bought a puppy from "Pisa vom Stieglerhof" who is now 5 months old and a very dark black and red beautiful female with no faults or white colors is:
www.poettgens-ulusoy.de
They are the owners of VA2 HILL vom Farbienspiel as well as VA Huppy von Arlett and others. You can DEFINITLEY trust them. Only problem is they rarely have any for sale.
Also another I HIGHLY RECOMMEND is a very knowledgeable breeder kennel owner (Sharyn Baker) who you can absolutely trust and she can help with training if needed as well here in the U.S.A. and also has a show coming up the 3rd week of June 2005 her contact is:
www.coloradogermanshepherdrescue.net
She will help you and guide you if needed and I believe she still has a few puppies left out of a Kevin Murrtal sired litter!!! SHE WILL TREAT YOU RIGHT!!
Dan

by Brandi on 28 April 2005 - 05:04
Vom Eichenluft. Breeder: Molly Graf. Location: Carlisle, PA USA. Website: http://www.workinggermanshepherd.com/
I know Molly personally, and she breeds awesome working lines with correct structure, tempermant, pigmentation, working ability, and just an all around awesome GSD. Many of her dogs have excelled in Police, SAR, SchH and many more. She stands behind ALL her dogs. Her breeding program is of excellence.
Von Hayden Shepherds. Breeder: Kim Wiacek-Richards. Location: Dutchess County, New York
Website: http://vonhaydensheps.fatcow.com//index.html
She just began her German line breeding program, but has been involved a LONG time in GSDs. She, too stands behind her dogs.
Van Tiekerhook. Breeder: Koos Hassing. Location: Netherlands. Website: http://www.tiekerhook.com/
Most know of Koos and his breeding program. He produces very intense working dogs. They are sometimes not for the beginner, but are excelling in all lines of work. These dogs are backed by MANY intense, popular and productive lineage. Koos has been within our breed for MANY, MANY years. He knows our breed and what it was meant to be used for. THis is what he strives for.

by SUPER-DAVE on 28 April 2005 - 09:04
I don't know of any Kennel that would deserve that Heavenly title, because every breeder seems to have an agenda of their own. I would be interested to see what the breeding/buying public considers the most important criteria for such a selection as the BEST KENNEL? Integrity? Price? Longivity? Progeny achievements? Titles? Blood Lines? Compassion? Service? Assistanc? Knowledge? How do you rate a kennel, and what is important to you? One dog purchased there could have been a lucky break and like some have said a crap shoot selection. Is that enough to say it is the BEST KENNEL HANDS DOWN? Personally, I have seen and picked (at a premium) "the pick of the litter puppy". Was it the right choice? Wait two years and we shall see? A good eye connected to a brain with experience has a better chance than a novice, but I would never expect any breeder to have the least of the litter quality left for sale when all the rest were gone. After all, what Dairy farmer would sell all his choice heffers and keep the culls for his herd, would you want the left overs to raise out and keep? I think not; not if you have a choice.
Holistica Hutte
by SGBH on 28 April 2005 - 13:04
Basically if you can get a genetically healthy puppy that YOU are satisfied with, it has been a good day. Some kennels are larger than others, because they have been around longer, but if get a genetically winning puppy that has been properly cared for(medically) and properly socialized, the breeder has done his or her job. This "biggest and best" is an American mentality trip, and is mutually exclusive from the actual animal.
by sportstuff on 28 April 2005 - 16:04
UNDER NEW ARTICLES SEE PICK OF LITTER FACT OR FABLE?
by sportstuff on 28 April 2005 - 20:04
Earlier in this post I mentioned a few breeders I think are trustworthy and helpful and they are I just wanted to also add that of the one's I mentioned I had forgotten to mention that Sharyn Baker of:
www.coloradogermanshepherdrescue.net
produces very few VERY HIGH QUALITY litters and I know for a fact she barely breaks even!!
As she is committed to the betterment of the breed itself thus only produces a limited # of litters each year I believe 2-3 at the most.
By the way whether you're interested in a puppy purchase/training or simply want to enter your pup/dog in the show go to the website for details.
I hope to see you all there as I will be and competing in the 6-9 month class with my female "Pisa vom Stieglerhof"
I want to compete against the best out there so come and be a part I'm willing/ready/able and waiting on you!!
By the way there wil be an SV judge and a bunch of other exciting things happening.
See Ya!
Dan
sportstuff
by Helser K9 on 28 April 2005 - 20:04
I ran across a good kennel in my venture for green dogs. I just purchased 3 dogs from them yesterday a black male, a sable female and a Mal. They also have a litter on the ground that looks great. They raise working dogs only. They only do police dogs. The pedigree might not be what you want but the dogs are.
Here is there web site. www.tristatek-9.com
Tell them Tom sent you. They are located in West Virginia and have a lot of good stock.
Tom Helser

by SUPER-DAVE on 16 November 2005 - 09:11
Will someone please put a side panel link on this web site, that explains all the German titles and acronyms in English and Spanish, and cross references them to FCI and the rest of the world. For example, I see VA rated dogs, with HD ausland (a6) Hip-dysplacia ratings, and I wonder how widely that top dog Has proliferated those bad hip genetics to the whole next fifty generations of German Shepherd, that are LINE BRED on him showing 3,4, 5- 2, 3, 5 in the mating check. Wow! We havent even began to get close to cleaning up bad hips, and we still have Degenerative Myelopathy most common to the German Shepherd dog, to find a cure for and weed out of the gene pool. See
This web site for more information: http://neuro.vetmed.ufl.edu/neuro/DM_Web/Funding.htm
by Jantie on 16 November 2005 - 09:11
This might come in handy?
From Dr. Fred Lanting:
(Do go ahead and buy and read his books!)
It might not look great on this board, but I will mail it to you, if I can find your address with your profile.
Table 10-5 Approximate comparisons of various hip evaluation schemes. Thick or double line separates dogs recommended as allowed for breeding from those recommended for not breeding. Most certify as within suitable limits as early as one year of age. There is considerable overlapping, and breed clubs may vary from the boundaries recognized by countries or hip registries. FCI does not currently make recommendations, and PennHIP suggests breeders prefer the lowest DI and highest percentiles. PennHIP does not make breeding recommendations based on specific Distraction Index numbers. The ADRK +/ actually is equivalent to B-1 in FCI, while their HD+ spans B-2 and C-1. For some of the basis for the design and content of this chart, I wish to thank Dr. Al Corley of OFA, and GSD fancier Bobbie Impellizeri.
FCI Classification A 1 ║ 2 B 1 ║ 2 C 1 ║ 2 D 1 ║ 2 E 1 ║ 2
VDH (Germanysall-breeds club) Kein hinweis(no signs) für HD Verdächtig für HD (transitional) Leichte HD(slight or mild) Mittlere HD(moderate) Schwere HD(severe)
SV (German club for GSDs) a-stamp normal (a-1)(normal) a2fast normal(nearly normal) a3noch zugelassen(still permitted) Mittlere HD Schwere HD
ADRK (German clubfor Rottweilers) HD (free, no signson radiograph) HD +/Minor X-rayirregularities HD +Mild radiograph. evidence of HD not permitted to breed or register offspring not permitted to breed or register offspring
Netherlands Negatief geheelgaaf (divided): 1 ║ 2 Transitional case Licht positief3 (mild HD) Positief3¿ Positief 4 PositiefOptimaForma 5
Finland Ei hyvat Ei 2 Rajatapaus I II III IV
Sweden Utmärkt U. A. I II III IV
Switzerland Frei I II III IV
Australia &New Zealand 0-5 BVA-AVA score, equivalent to normal 6-10 AVAscore near-normal If bred, breed up to lower-score partners Scores of over 16 (8/8) not given the A (Acceptable) stamp, and arenot recommended for breeding
BVA / KC 0-5BVA score 6-10 BVA score If bred, breed up Scores of over 20 not recommended for breeding, but there is no cut-off point
OVG-Canada within normal limits abnormal
also called dysplastic
OFA (U.S.A.) Excellent(certifies) Good (certifies) Fair (certifies) Border-line MildHD ModerateHD Severe HD
© 1993, 2004 copyrighted by Fred Lanting
although containing much of the same information as an FCI chart and one prepared by Bobbie Impellizzeri.
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