DIARRHEA NON STOP--- WHAT DO YOU FEED YOUR DOG? - Page 1

Hello,

I did a search on the Diarrhea on this board... some useful information but I would like to hear more please.

I have an 8 month old.... Rama he is on the right in my logo, and I have a 14 week old. (pics coming)

I have had the 14 week old for just over a week... she came to me with good poops, (both in form and in testing)

Within 5 days she is pooping oatmeal looking diarrhea and my boy does the same thing.

I got him at 4 months old and have NEVER been able to get his gut regular, I take GREAT CARE in feeding them, and I am beginning to think I am over-doing it.

Here is what they have been eating 3xdaily. I feed them @9, @2, and @7

Wysong Adult Formula Lamb and Rice or Chicken and Rice (measurments per weight on bag... he is 80 lbs and gets 1.5 cups 3 times a day... she is 30+ and gets 3/4 cup (3xdaily)

To that I add the following:

Morning- pinch of kelp, teaspoon of lecithin, heaping tablespoon of yogurt, 3 tablespoons of flax meal, 1/2 cup of steamed chicken, ground beef, or cottage cheese.

Lunch, the same thing but add vitamins... a-f betafood, zypan, and zymex (digestive vitamins from the vet) garlic clove, and vitamin C ( He gets double the amount she gets of everything for right now as per weight merit )

Dinner is the same as breakfast.

I am not crazy about the idea of feeding them raw meat... even though I do understand most people say it is good for your dog... I just don't want kisses on my face after they eat a raw chicken neck, or ground beef etc...

I am open to anything and any advice... I am at the end of my rope with my current vet, whom I love dearly... but admittedly is not helping me out... I am callng a new vet as soon as I hit send... but would love to hear what people on this forum have to say.

Thanks,

Jacob Angel

Yesterday I started giving them Bottled Water, and just kibble and yogurt... I left everything else out... Still runny poo's

Should I fast them today????  THey are so young and active to fast?

If I am understanding you correctly, the older dog has not had this problem until the new pup showed up? If this is the case, I would look at possibly parasites as the problem. Esp if the older one has been on the diet for awhile with no problems.

Feeding too much will give the squirts.

Your feeding too much....eliminate the vitamins and start all over.....too much to soon and too rich....

You dont need all the vet pro ensymes ..use yogurt and alternate cottage cheese for calcium...there are better probiotics thatn what you are useing...some here will give you the internet order place for them...Im on a run got to hit it..wya behind and its is fixing to rain... dont need vitamins until you get their poop fixed...Vit c can cause scours also....

start over and ad little at a time.....chicken and rice for the next three days to get diahrea out....check for parasites and cocci   your new pup may have cocci...

100% pure canned pumpkin puree

I agree.  You have to start with a clean slate.  First you need to get the diarrhea under control, because any other nutrients are just going to go right through their system and the body won't be able to utilize them.

For diarrhea issues, I've had success with Kaopectate (regular flavor).  Giving a few doses throughout a day usually helps resolve the issue.  Don't give any food and just enough water to keep them hydrated.  I've also tried a mixture of 1-2 white potatoes,1-2 sweet potatoes, a few slices of leek, and a few slices of turnip and it also helps.  You boil everything together, then mash it up and give a small amount to the dog along with some cooked chicken.  

Once the diarrhea is resolved, go back to straight food with a little yogurt.  Enzymes are only needed if the dog isn't processing the nutrients properly so see how your dog does without them.  I also use a product from Springtime Inc. called Fresh Factors.  It's basically a vitamin that is good for puppies and dogs.  You could probably get rid of the kelp, lecithin, etc. with that pill.  My dogs all have really soft coats and good skin with just that supplement and some yogurt.  I've found that boiled chicken has a tendency to give my dogs the runs.  I made a huge batch of this great stew from pressure cooking a chicken, then adding veggies, etc., that I found in a holistic dog book and it gave every one of my dogs diarrhea!  You have to really make sure what foods agree with your dog and what might not.

Good Luck!

I am "guessing" that your pup may have coccidia or giaradia. Neither of these turn up in the normal fecal tests unless the vet has a more powerful microscope and knows what he is looking for. Many vets send a sample to a lab to check for these two. The yellow oatmeal stool sounds like coccida to me. and since your older dog has NEVER had this problem before I doubt that it is because you are feeding too much.  Just my thoughts!

I prefer raw and chicken kisses are better than poop kisses! LOL!! You know even if they don't eat it, they do clean themselves. .... lol.... just joking with you! Hope that's ok.

Until you figure it out, try feeding only about 2 or 3 tablespoons of canned pumpkin (not pumpkin pie mix). Then you can add cottage cheese in when it starts to help. 

Sure sounds like you are trying to take care of them best you can. The amount of food they need also depends on how active they are.  If that's what the bag tells you to feed for the weight then that's what a normal activity dog needs.  Different kinds of kibble require different amounts of food, but you have to be the judge of that according to how they look. 

Hope it clears up soon!

Debby

oops got the order of the problem wrong with what dog had what first. sorry. I would stil think it is coccidia. have that checked.

Just thought of something else too. I have friends who have dogs with "sensitive" stomachs and they have had great luck with Purina Sensitive Stomach food. May want to try it for the older dog?

If you dog's digestive system is not healthy then any food change can give them diarrhea. That's what pro-biotics are for. Most dogs that are fed a straight kibble diet have a much worse time with food change than a raw fed or pro-biotic supplimented dog is.  The pro-biotics that are more natural are best.

Debby

Just a suggestion.

Is the older pup lean? I think an older pup should have ribs readily felt but not seen. The correct protein and fat level to achieve this is best. The correct fat type with balanced Omega-3 (some DHA) and Omega 6.

If your dogs have good appetite, your should avoid overfeeding them.

The older dog does not need feeding 3 times a day at that age.  The amount you are feeding seems rather alot too.  Many feed companies encourage over feeding as it means you are buying more of their product.

I also agree that if you are feeding a complete kibble you dont need all the extra's.