Aye! DNA Breed Analysis.... Do You Dare? - Page 1

Me bucko be goin' through a nightmare aye. He has a fine GSD aye t' GSD be o' t' best workin' lines aye! t' GSD be degreed and titled aye. Me bucko lives in Mass. he be so proud o' his GSD he goes t' his Vet,,at "New England Veterinary Behavioral Associates" 8-A CAMELLA PLACE,, LEXINGTON MA. 02420...Me bucko has t' Vet send for a DNA Breed Analysis Summary Wisdom Panel. T' report comes aft that his top GSD be a mixed breed aye. It shows different breeds in t' GSD's ancestry. aye Shows faint signals from other breeds as well aye. Some o' t' breeds mentioned were unbelievable AYE! On t' bottom o' t' test it says::If ye have any questions about this summary, or t' online report,,,Please Call "MARS VETERINARY at 1.888.K9.PET.TEST.......Me promised me bucko that me would not post t' report. He doesn't want his name or t' name o' his GSD known aye...Could this be a big mistake? Me dont have t' guts t' send off for a breed Analysis Summary on me beloved dogs aye.....ye know,,What a Pirate not know, doesn't hurt him AYE!

Wow Captmike,

Thats serious. I just had a litter and because both parents are imports the AKC won't let me register my litter without a DNA test. So I guess there's been a lot of lying going on somewhere? Does his dog not look mixed or any of its ancestors?

There was a similar discussion on a different message board back in July.  I have heard that while the DNA tests are great at naming sire and dam, they also name different breeds than what the dog is. is it possible this is because the test is picking up on the various breeds used to make the breed in question?  Here is a link to the discussion:

http://www.workingdogforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=2909&highlight=DNA+testing

Aye! gimme10mins, it be like Sue says aye. Thar be different types of DNA tests aye T' test me posted above not be to prove parents, but to find breed analysis aye. Me bucko's dog be a high dollar GSD with t' finest of heritage and ancestors aye...me bucko has t' $$$$$ and he only has t' best, from his autos, to his real estate, and to his dogs aye That be why he is beside himself Aye! 

I'm like you Capt Mike, if there is something else, I just don't even want to know!!!

there was a special on 20/20 or 60 minutes a while back about this.  they were testing mixed breeds to find out what kind of dogs they come from.   there results were mixed to say the least.  i  believe they  even tested pure breed dogs and those results showed the same thing, that they were all mixed.  

john

Well, common sense should tell us that there are millions of humans out there, that have no clue that their real father is not the guy raising them and the "father" doesn't know it either.  Sometimes not even the mother knows, but may suspect.

I have always wondered how accurate a pedigree is, if just one dog back generations ago was not "correct", either accidentially or intentionally, then most all pedigrees would be inaccurate.

Would it turn the GSD world topsy-turvy if it was found out that Jeck never fathered a pup, ever?

Of course I am not saying that is the circumstance.  I am asking a pretend scenario question.

 Probably all humans and probably all canines came from the same small group or individual progenitor. DNA testing, if sophisticated enough, will certainly pick up on this fact. As well, new DNA testing of humans now can trace your ancestry to a country of origin. The question is who did the testing and who interprets the results. If it was one of the top companies doing it, then there should be plenty of information as to the statistical reliability of the results. 

It is a known fact that GSDs arose from certain breeds. In fact, I have an article that suggests that we now have it narrowed down to about four core breeds for the ancestors of all canines. Sooner or later, it will be even more narrow.

So I would not get too anxious about this, depending....

I am going to get the DNA analysis done on our GSD mix on her next checkup; I know she is probably half malamute, but there may be some retriever and/or wolf in there...she is terribly intelligent for a domestic canine, and we have had to spend more than a bit of time and money to supress her natural aggressive tendencies (no, the dog does not bite, but the owners DO).

Hi All!

I believe anyone that is breeding dogs, that they claim to be a distinct breed with the dogs that are listed
on the pedigree should have their breeding stock DNA'ed, there is no reason not to, since DNA is so accurate.
I mean come on...., what's with the tattoos and the micro-chip, sure that identifies your dog as an individual but
what about your dogs ancestry?

For all you know, he or she could be half mule!