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by Lynx on 21 February 2008 - 11:02
Looking for the males of "old" show-lines including Canto Wienerau (without Fedor), Quanto Arminius (without Odin), Marko Cellerland, Cello Romerau.
Do you know any?
by VOTAN on 21 February 2008 - 12:02
hi lynx. you can try to loock at dux de cuatro flores. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/395083.html he goes back to a good old line ower mutz v.d. pleztierfarm. http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/33.html and he is allso in the pedigree of many of todays sports dogs. i hope this can help you a step on your way. best regards from aanje in tromsö\norway
by Drew on 21 February 2008 - 13:02
"old" show lines like Mutz, Marko, etc are easier to find in working line dogs
by spunio on 21 February 2008 - 13:02
Amigo Belgier / Frei Hirschel
by Shelley Strohl on 21 February 2008 - 14:02
Most of those dogs are so long dead they are hard to find in today's pedigrees. Ron and Ex Maineiche were linebred on VA Frei von der Gugge, 5, 5-5 and VA1 Marko Cellerland 3,4. through awesome producers Jana and Xento Maineiche, still found in pedigrees today. Xento was linebred 5,5 Jalk and 5,5 VA Ajax Haus Dexel.
Neck Maineiche was 5,4 VA2 Quanto Wienerau, 3,5 Marko.
Most people bred away from Canto because he was hemophiac, not known for producing much working ability, but not before nearly 5,000 dogs were produced line-bred on him... IMO Quanto was the better dog.
SS
by Debbie on 21 February 2008 - 15:02
Kerry vom Torberg, father Amigo, grandfather Frei.
by spunio on 21 February 2008 - 15:02
Hi Debbie,
Kerry Torberg`s father is Cento vom Monopteros ( bred by me ) his grandpa is Amigo Belgier and grandgrandpa is Frei,g
by Debbie on 21 February 2008 - 16:02
Yes, sorry your right, knew the other two were in there somewhere. Thanks for breeding such a fantastic dog. Wish there were more of him.
by CaptMike on 21 February 2008 - 17:02
Aye! me has a 9yr old grandson of Cello. have some grt grandkids too aye. They be t' apple of me eye.
by angusmom on 21 February 2008 - 22:02
my dog angus has Quando, Quanto and Cello in his pedigree. he is listed as "angus von thinschmidt II" in the database. they are back 6 and 7 generations.
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