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NWilz

by NWilz on 14 January 2008 - 21:01

  Not too long ago a friend had me keep their female for a little while.  All was great until my personal companion spayed female GSD and her accidentally got in the yard together.  Of course, there was a big fight.  I did something you should never, ever, ever do and broke it up by hand (I was alone when this happened).  LUCKILY, both dogs know and love me, and both let up when they bit me.  I had about 20 bites but since they let up on me, only had 3 stitches so I was extremely lucky. Now I want to add a new female to the family.  I know at first there are going to be some hard times.  My dog will settle down and accept, but at first she is hesitant and agitated.  I realize that there is the possibility of another fight.  I've read on Leerburg about breaking up fights but I'm still not extremely comfortable as I usually handle my dogs alone. A breeder told me she uses a "hot stick" or cattle prod to break up female on female fights.  Is this common and safe?  Would a stun gun be less powerful and more safe?  Breeder and multiple dog owners, how do you be prepared for female on female fights?  Accidents do happen and I want to be prepared in the event something goes wrong and there's another fight.  I feel like I got very lucky breaking up the one fight and I really don't want to try to break up another one alone and by hand.  I just want to be prepared.  Please share your experiences and how you deal with this.  Thanks so much!

by zacsmum on 14 January 2008 - 21:01

Why not just get a male?


shasta

by shasta on 14 January 2008 - 21:01

 I never do two spayed females in the same household and when I have clients that do, I tell them there's not always much that can be done that the average pet owner is prepared to deal with. I've seen two females get along ok, but after they've started fighting it's like they'll hold a grudge forever. Worse when both are around the same age and temperament. I agree with the last poster, better just to get a male. Cattle prods or hot sticks and the like may break up a fight, but I"m not willing to be put into the position where I have to resort to that in the first place if I don't have to.


by hodie on 14 January 2008 - 21:01

 NWitz,

I will make a single statement. Did you not learn something from this incident? IF you can always keep the females separated, then fine. But if you cannot, and they want to fight, and you do not have a good command of the dogs, you will have a fight. It can get so intense as to seriously injure or even result in the death of one of the females, let alone seriously injure you. If dogs are into it, almost nothing will stop some dogs, short of knocking one out. Even still it is very dangerous. I have a stun gun and it is completely worthless. Don't kid yourself.

I have multiple females together, but I am very experienced and constantly on guard for the first hint of trouble. I am also a very strong presence and the dogs are handled very carefully in many ways to be sure to avoid a fight. Female with female fights are generally speaking, MUCH more severe than males fighting males.

The question above should be one you are thinking about. Get a male.


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 14 January 2008 - 21:01

I don't put 2 adult males or 2 adult females together. My scars tell the story.

SS


DeesWolf

by DeesWolf on 14 January 2008 - 21:01

I have several dogs, and mine live in a pack. Both genders mixed. This works for me for a couple of reasons. 1) it is very clear to my dogs who the pack leader is, and that challenging and fighting behavior is not allowed, and I will deal with it, strictly. 2) However, my dogs do not mingle in a pack when I am not there to be the pack leader. My dogs do not consider anyone other than me the leader, so when I am not home, they are not allowed to be together, as a pack. A couple will be out together at a time. When I am home they are all together. My brother and I can even mingle our two packs together, and interchange dogs from house to house, because our dogs know who the pack leader is.

When I add another dog to the pack or sometimes even a cat, the animal I add, has to also recognize me as the leader, and ACCEPT me as the leader. This all has to happen before I can mix that animal into the pack.

On occasion there might be a disagreement between a couple of dogs, and I handle it with a correction to all parties involved. I also take precautions! if some one is in heat, the group gatherings are different. That female isn't around any of the other dogs, male or female, altered or not. The males are not allowed to be together during that time either. Common sense and knowing your own dogs, goes a long way to maximizing a harmonious situation.


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 14 January 2008 - 22:01

I have 2 females that are half sisters, same mom different dad.

One is 2 1/2 years old, the other is 18 months, the 2 1/2 yr old had been sold to someone at 7 months,
then came back 5 months later, (the guy didn't have a clue) so when I got her back I decided I would keep
her forever.  Then one day recent, the two got in a big bitch fight, so I said that's it, I can't have any dogs not
getting along.
  So I put the 18 month old up for sale, some people came to see her, and their 3 year old was laying over
her back, and she was the best dog in the world, plus she has huge thick bones.
    So anyway after the people left, my husband said "So why are we getting rid of her?"

  Then I thought why are we getting rid of her?

So the man called back & I told him we decided to keep her, then that very next day, the two girls had
another very nasty fight, where as the younger one got puncture holes in her legs!
 I put anti-biotics on her wounds, then, I brought both dogs in the house later that day, we had a nice
 big photo shoot, I sat them side by side and said get along, and I kept them close together in the house,
for the next few days, they seemed to have gotten over it,.

 Also, if one of them even looks at the other sideways, they hear it from me!!!!

I decided I want to keep both of them, and I am their pack leader!!!

Hodie, you are also right about having a good comand, they are both going to have more advanced training.
Just making them kiss & make-up, surprised me, but, I was keeping them separated, and that leads to more
anxiety between the two!

  (Can't we all just get along?????????)


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 14 January 2008 - 22:01

Also, Deeswolf,
  Excellent advice, it's sort of like, knowing your dogs very well, and what to look for
before trouble starts.

And not letting them be around each other, when you their pack leader is absent,
Brilliant!!!!!


by hodie on 14 January 2008 - 22:01

 DeeWolf does essentially as I do. No one else handles 19 GSDs, unneutered and unspayed here and mixed together, except for me. Even still, I am constantly vigilant, never play with them together, give one too much attention, correct one in front of the others (some will try to join in) and NEVER feed or have bones etc. together. But I am boss and they all know that. When a female is coming into heat, or there are events going on here, or other people here, I must change how I do things and split the pack up or I have more potential for conflict. Generally speaking, the dogs like each other and get along well. But they are dogs and given a reason in their mind, a fight could break out. That gets potentially very dangerous. So I am exceedingly careful. Most people cannot do this and I personally, for example, will not adopt a same sex dog to a family who already has a dog of that sex, or, in the rare instance of a sale, would also not make the sale.


KYLE

by KYLE on 14 January 2008 - 22:01

Hodie said a mouthful.  DID YOU NOT LEARN YOUR LESSON.  Do not attempt  a Ceasar Milan at your house, you will lose big time.  I'm 5'10 and athletic 220 pounds.  I'm in law enforcement in a very urban city in the northeast, so foot chases, grappling and punching are frequent.  Having said this, back in October I had two females get into it.  These two females got into it 4 years ago and my wife had to get 10 sutures 5 days before we got married.  We were successful at keeping them apart for 4 years.  This last October I made the mistake of walking one of leash and went into the house to answer a ringing phone.  I thought the house  dog was in another part of the house.  The dog I was walking followed me into the house and the house dog met us before I could close the door.They scissor locked mouth to mouth.  I keep fur savers on the dogs and reached for the live rings on each collar.  While reaching for the collars I got bit.  I had leather work gloves on and did not see any blood.  Basically I choked one out with the fur savor.  he other would not let go so I had to put a knee into her neck and press against the door jab.  This all lasted maybe 4 to 6 minutes.  The only breather I was able to get was when I had some control while kneeing the house dog. 

The dogs were 30 seconds away from getting thrown into our swimming pool that I was in the process of closing.  I figured they would have to let go in order to swim.  Once the dogs were seperated I did the palpations and inspections for serious puncture wounds.  To my relief and surprise they were okay except a little scratched up.  I took my glove off and had a bad puncture between my pinky and ring finger.  Off to the hospital for 6 sutures.  Oh I forgot to mention how spent, drained and physically wiped out I was from the ordeal.  One of the females weighs 65 pounds and the other about 72 pounds.  Don''t do this to yourself unless you are ready to go thru an event like I just told.

Kyle






 


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