seeking pedigree history - Page 1

hi all ...here is a CZECH blk sable female imported for me..she is currently @ importers house in US now to be trained --OB//crate & in english for me, & will have hips re-xrayed 1/3/08 as films were to light. she is 16 mos old...lived witha czech lady, "some" training & housebreaking. I saw her about 36 hrs of her arrival in US...VERY calm, VERY quiet girl. ALert but did not do any barking. Cautious when first meeting, but no growling etc & within the minute allowed petting etc...VERY laid back & gentle..indifferent to importers other dogs/cats/livestock etc---shows no interest....walked her some & was pretty handler easy despite "language" barrier & makes good eye contact....she is not fixed..should be in heat soon.. her name is jolla bett silver--cannot find father Ingo Niox or mother--Hessie z Dvorakova Sadu or sado? on database--may have found jollas aunt --Hiss z dvorakova...JOLLAS grandparents on sires side are --Ilko Aus Der Konigshohle x Bajga z Gartu & on dams side Norbo Ben Ju X Rea Gymor.. as a newbie i get confused trying to follow history of czech//german east//west etc...all the abbreviations & different Hips/titles etc from different countries etc...SO WHAT DO I HAVE HERE?? and also I'D like to know more of her PARENTS if anyone knows . here is 2 links to pictures taken in her short stop in germany before to US. ----.she does look thin in the pictures & is even skinnier in person---importer & i agreed she needs 10-12lbs AT LEAST-- on her. http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj71/deeakalucy/3standsehrgut.jpg http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj71/deeakalucy/5gutsitz.jpg *************DEE**************

LUCY, Not all dogs are registered in this database - it¿s not an official tool. The dam you found (Hiss Zdvorakova Sadu) must be the sister (litter mate) from the mothar of your dog. What you must do is to register the mom of your dog in the database, with the informations you have in the pedigree and, if necessary, copying info from Hiss). You must do the same with his patern dogs, get all info available and registar the missing ones. What I can say is that his gandfather, Norbo Ben ju is a great dog and you must have purchased an excelent female. Look info about him at: http://www.jinopo.cz/studdogs1.php?lg=en#norbo Good lucky with her.

looking around i found a Fela Bett Silver & a Lary Bret BETT & Piko bret Bett----would the "silver OR Bett" in thse names be of an owner or kennel? in common with my Jolla Bett Silver?---i dont know czech to know where on copy of FCI pedigree paper is an owners name or breeders name thanks for any help

The breeders name is on front of the pedigree where it says "chovatel". The last owner of the dog is listed on back of the pedigree where it says "Zmény majitelú". It gives the name of last owner and their address. Hessie and Hiss are litter mates.

SANZA--- THANKS FOR THE LINK TO NORBO.-- *****-HE'S ALSO ON THIS KENNEL SITE//LINK http://www.vandenheuvelk9.com/norbo.html------I LIKE BIG BLOCK HEADS...LOL HUKKA-- -THANKS FOR THE TIP---I NOW KNOW OF THE BREEDER...I ONLY HAVE ACOPY OF THE FCI PEDIGREE & only the first side--so i dont know if breeder is owner also. ****..Breeder is RUDA Zdenek? ( cant make the last name out to good)---anyone know of her//her kennels? JOLLAS grandparents ***on sires side are --Ilko Aus Der Konigshohle x Bajga z Gartu **** on dams side Norbo Ben Ju X Rea Gymor.. i am told she has good lines in her pedigree (egidius//gymor//policia//pohrancini etc)--- *********i followed 1 ancester back to a BEOWULF---just thought it funny as that movie is in theatres now. in closing...i have "crossed-posted" also to another forum to help in finding out about this dog & her history etc -----anybody wish to comment//share knowledge of anything??---like even her overall conformation??--i welcome any critiques...

I think her weight looks ok in the pics. Coat is a bit dull. You might want to de-worm her, but I'd say don't add much if you plan to work her. Good luck with your new girl, SS

Here is what I found on GSDDATA.com

oops did Hiss twice

sanza----

oops---foregot to thank you for informing me that one can register a dog in this database---as a newbie i thought  one could type in names &  PRESTO-- find "family tree"..     SOOOO...then where does one go to find an "official  registry"///database????   if i'm wording this right?  

 

 

davwgaston----

-Ummm---i kinda dont understand the above chart for ilko..i see the left hand side is all the "sires" dating back---but dont understand why some are "green" colored ????   & if i click on the sires--i just get the same as above but "choppier" print--- am i supposed to "access"" more info when clcking on them?

 

TO ALL--

1)  -importer is taking JOLLA for re-xrays today----then will send them to my vets----i am so anxious as i am "hip phobic"  now after 2 outta 3 HD GSD's--- 

2)  IF ANYONE IS FAMILIAR with her "LINES"---would 1 say overall they have history of "good hips"?*****Jollas mom--HESSIE z DVORAKOVA ---on my printed copy of the FCI--says HDa(0/2)--?czech rating?---whats this mean in "OFA" equivilancy??

3)  dont know when she'll be ready--finished with all her training that i asked from importer--hoping within a months time though---

 

4)  can anyone COMMENT on her CONFORMATION---angulations etc please?-----will have to use my photobucket links above as i dont know how to actually get the "picture" on here..   OR comment on any other  "NOTABLES"  in her lines?

 

thanks