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GSDGenetics

by GSDGenetics on 26 September 2008 - 00:09

In the German Zuchtbuch,  the first letter for color of a puppy in a litter is usually "s" for "schwarz" meaning black,and after that comes the abbreviation for the marking colors.  If you see "b" instead of "s", as the first letter,  you know that you're seeing liver, since liver is called "braun" and will be designated with "b" instead of the usual "s" for schwarz (black) 

When you see a litter of pups listed as sbr, sg, bg, for example, what you would be seeing would be schwarz and braun (sbr)meaning black and red (Germany calls the red ground color "braun" too), schwarz-gelb (sg-black and tan) and bg would be brown and tan (liver and tan).. 

If you see a litter of pups that all are shown as only s,that is a litter of all black pups.  If that litter happens to have a pup whose color is "b" instead of "s", that means  a solid liver pup. 

Since whites and blues are not even admissible to the zuchtbuch, such pups in litters bred by experienced German breeders would be sure to magically disappear at birth as if they never existed, before the breed warden inspects the litter.


july9000

by july9000 on 26 September 2008 - 00:09

 Two points here:

1. i work in a vet clinic and I have seen two liver GSD with really bad cases of allergies.  We had to do desensibilisation with them to reduce it.  Does it mean they have more skin problems?? IMO yes..but this is only what I saw.

2.  Maybe they weren't real Long Coats (or one of them).  Can a dog express the long coat factor without being carrier?? I thought that no but hey..Nature brings you surprise sometimes!!


kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 26 September 2008 - 02:09

These are 2 sable pups out of my sable female that Blue is the father of.


by Teri on 26 September 2008 - 11:09

This may seem like a stupid question but why are long coats, whites, blues and/or liver colors considered bad.  Seems to me that since they are in the GSD gene pool that they belong there?????  As previously mentioned many GSD's have skin conditions & allergies.  So why are these colors often killed at birth?

Teri 






 


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