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by Jantie on 10 September 2007 - 10:09

Correction Ilse: the SV-2000 has NO members yet, how could it? It has only been founded, it will take many more steps before it will proceed with member applications. What you might refer to, is the number of (REGISTERED!) USERS of the website of the "Züchtergemeinschaft". Nothing more, nothing less. Once the club is in place, and approved by VDH (and FCI), we will soon know how many members there are. You'll be surprised.

Uuuuh!??  "...if you don't get the votes for it, the ideas are maybe not as good as you think..." ?????

Up-date / flash-back for you: Helmut Raiser got elected as the Bundeszuchtwart! Did you forget that? (Won't go into the details about his removal, but his ideas were apparently good enough to get elected into one of the top-positions of the SV. You certainly know the dimenion of the support you need to accomplish that?)

Question Ilse: Would you say ALL SV-members joining the (future) new breeding club must get lost also and be banned from the SV?

Would appreciate reading your thoughts on that.


by Jantie on 17 September 2007 - 14:09

Where are you Ilse? Have you vanished? Was kind of waiting for your nice reply to my last question.

Anyway. Thomas Lapp is a deserved winner of the BSP 2007. Many congratulations to him and his dog for an outstanding performance.

Would be great to have a challenge between Thomas and Helmut, "just for fun", on neutral terrain, with neutral judges.

By the way Ilse. Dr. Raiser visited the BSP and received an overwhelming applause from the crowd! How about that for a reply to your statement: "...the idears are maybe not as good as you think...".

 


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 17 September 2007 - 16:09

I would have loved to have been there when Helmut got the round of applause.

SS


by harddawg on 11 December 2007 - 01:12

The problem is the same as with all politics, money. Greed will continue to erode ideals. I don't see anything changing.

Oskar1

by Oskar1 on 11 December 2007 - 08:12

Jantie, you just cannot leave it alone, can you ? As stated by others this whole ordeal has cost tons of money allready, and will continue to cost a lot of money. It was most certainly not like "Epelliarmus", they knew what they were getting into, and they definetly knew what the outcome will be. HR was indeed "Bundeszuchtwart", but decided not to represent the majority of the members of the SV, and therefore was voted out. Pretty demokratic, if you ask me. On top, and I will say that this is only what I hear every now & then, many of the SV2000 breeders seem to still like the "original pink SV papers" pretty much, I guess the pups sell easier with that ! Look, if you want to change things, that is good. Do it acording to to the rules, if you place yourself outside of these rules, face the consequences and deal with it acordingly. Dont play this crap, oh I should be still allowed to play balony. Kind of wired, how would you react if I pi** on your leg, and afterwords complain about, that you were standing there ?? They clearly do not want to go conform with the SV, and choose to form a new club, fine with me. Do it, and form your own destiny without trying to take benefit of the infrastructure of the club that these peopel try to damage wherever they can. Thank you DH for your comment,Ilse & Chris, you guys hit it head on. Thanks. Regards Ulli Dresbach

by harddawg on 12 December 2007 - 06:12

Dr. Helmut Raiser is a f'n hero! He plainly sees the direction that the GSD is headed and has had the fortitude to stand up to the "gods" in the SV and stick his finger in their faces. I give him the rating pronounced courage!





 


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