Protect your dogs from police and trespassers - Page 8

The problem is the math. What is the white population? What is the black population? You are wrong though and I can prove it if you like. Blacks are 2.5 times more likely to be killed than whites by police.

I guess your saying your numbers you compiled are correct, and the washington post is wrong? If you can prove the WP wrong by all means give it shot.

Not my numbers the Posts numbers but the post never adjusted those numbers for population. That is the flaw in your claim of the numbers.

 

"In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, while 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

However, data scientists and policing experts often note, comparing how many or how often white people are killed by police to how many or how often black people are killed by the police is statistically dubious unless you first adjust for population.

According to the most recent U.S. Census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times more likely to be shot and killed by police officers than white Americans."

 

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article88888522.html

 

If your going to adjust and frame something for the benefit of fitting into your position then we should frame and adjust in the fact of who commits the most violent crimes thereby offering the greatest chance of confrontation with LEO.

"Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as Mac Donald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald. MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

Facts are facts

And blacks also kill cops at a disproportionately higher rate. A study out of Harvard, done by an economics professor who also happens to be black, found that when it comes to use of lethal force there was no racial bias.

"In shootings in these 10 cities involving officers, officers were more likely to fire their weapons without having first been attacked when the suspects were white. Black and white civilians involved in police shootings were equally likely to have been carrying a weapon. Both results undercut the idea of racial bias in police use of lethal force.

But police shootings are only part of the picture. What about situations in which an officer might be expected to fire, but doesn’t?

To answer this, Mr. Fryer focused on one city, Houston. The Police Department there let the researchers look at reports not only for shootings but also for arrests when lethal force might have been justified. Mr. Fryer defined this group to include encounters with suspects the police subsequently charged with serious offenses like attempting to murder an officer, or evading or resisting arrest. He also considered suspects shocked with Tasers.

Mr. Fryer found that in such situations, officers in Houston were about 20 percent less likely to shoot if the suspects were black. This estimate was not precise, and firmer conclusions would require more data. But in various models controlling for different factors and using different definitions of tense situations, Mr. Fryer found that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0

One that is recent, not minimizing the problem. It has gotten better, but still much work to be done.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/22/death-threat-against-police-officers-children-after-he-fatally-shoots-dog/

Better: http://katu.com/news/local/police-man-used-his-pit-bull-to-attack-cops-in-newport

I am not framing it. It has already been framed by those with certain agendas but to say whites are twice as likely as blacks to be killed by an officer is non-sense. It makes common sense that if there are more whites then obviously there are going to be more shot by police. It is a common sense thing. And if the populations were the same you would see that more blacks actually died. Those are the facts. I am not disputing blacks are involved more often. I am disputing the fuzzy math posted. Stats 101. Looking at the numbers it is easy to see that yes more whites are killed but when you compare it to the population like we do for all other things the notion that more whites are killed is wrong because there are about 5 x as many whites so one would expect more whites to be killed.

In order to calculate the chances of being shot by a cop based on race you don't factor in population demographics. You factor in encounters with the police. It doesn't matter how many blacks or whites there are, all that matters is what happens when one gets stopped by the police. What you are trying to answer is what are the chances of a white or black getting shot by a cop during an encounter, not what are the chances of getting shot by a cop. It's like comparing the chances of getting struck by lightening on a sunny day while sitting on your sofa in your living room vs going out in a thunderstorm.

This is why the Harvard study could conclude, "that blacks were either less likely to be shot or there was no difference between blacks and whites."

If there are more whites a lot more who is going to have more encounters with police? So, naturally they will show a higher death toll. If there are 2 blacks and 10 whites and 1 of each is killed irregardless of encounters what does that tell us statistically speaking?

Oh boy.... Sometimes I wonder if your even a real person. Can you please share your age?