Shiloh Shepherds...Warlock/King Dobermans - Page 8

thorsthunder:

That makes sense how can people who would let you do what you were doimg to a police dog teach you proper actions around said dog. Must of been a piss poor police dog not to kill you at 8 with a descent bite to the throat!!!

Try raising stuffed puppies they are normally safe and you can cut and patch them all you want just leave the GSD breed alone. 

  I noticed on this forum some   topic threads have  been about SHILOHS..thank  you for your interest,  as the threads,

and remember anyone with interest here on forum can  learn by going to the  history links and learn about the breeds vision.

http://www.tinambarber.info/nonPCArticles.htm

OK, SO I WON'T POST BACK   REGARDLESS  OF YOUR  VIEW ON SHILOHS, THIS IS FORUM AND PEOPLE SHARE IDEAS HERE....IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE BETTER OF ALL OUR -CANINE COMPANIONS!!! WE ARE ALL CANINE LOVERS HERE THIS ISN;T A CAT FORUM SO WE SHARE THAT IN COMMON. HAHAH SO OFF i GO BEFORE WORK, WITH MY 120 POUND, SOLID BONED  -ISSR/SSDCA  BRED  SHILOH SHEPHERD .

http://www.tinambarber.info/nonPCArticles.htm  

FOR OUR DAILY DOES OF A 8-10  MILE  BIKE RIDE, MEETING  MANY  PEOPLE ALONG THE WAY WHO SMILE  AND  THUMBS UP  US  ON OUR JOURNEY!!!!!!

BEST REGARDS,     TO ALL.....      LJOY           

     HAVE A NICE DAY!!!  ISSR/SSDCA        THOR with THUNDER          aka (THE SUPER " T") 

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I don't worry about a shiloh biting me on the ass, or anywhere else

 

You are welcome to come here & meet Acer!! 

 

Now, to answer all of this BS!  First of all, I was involved with Sch. back in the 60's -- 70's & 80's -- I did not attend many NASA trials after my cancer treatments, but I did fly to Dallas for the "big" ones!!  I am sure there are still SOME trainers around that may remember me!!  Many of them have since passed away, including George .....

 

As far as "Shiloh's" NO ... my dogs were still registered as GSD's and many of those NEVER "made it" into the Shiloh genepool because they didn't meet the criteria!!  http://www.tinambarber.info/nonPCArticles.htm

If you read those articles, you will find ALL of the answers you are looking for!  I don't claim that my Shilohs are GSD's -- actually I make it VERY clear that they are NOT!!  They stand on their OWN merit -- unlike the frauds that ARE breeding GSD mixes (DDR/Chow) and selling them AS "shilohs" for thousands of dollars!!!  Maybe you should be looking into THAT problem, instead of trying to beat a dead horse??

" I don,t claim my SHILOAH,s were GSD,s-- actually I made it very clear they were not! "

  "As far as Shiloh,s  NO ... my dogs were registered as GSD,s"

Contradiction??

No, Bob, NOT a contradiction. In the early days, Tina DID breed AKC registered GSD's, under the Shiloh kennel name. (I think she started using that name in the 80's. Before that, she didn't use a kennel name. )

In 1990, she introduced Samson, a GSD/Malamute mix, and she then had to break with the AKC, as the dogs were no longer purebred GSD's. No REAL Shiloh currently carries an AKC registration.

So, to clear up any confusion, the early Shilohs were purebred GSD's and some had protection and Schutzhund training. Shiloh was the KENNEL name, not the name of the breed.

The current Shilohs have predominately GSD ancestry, and are not protection/schutzhund trained. Most of the Schutzhund trained dogs are no longer in their ancestry. However, a few of them, like Danlyn's Kaja, still are.

I believe I stated this in my original post.

I've also seen people on this board say Tina is lying about her Schutzhund experience, as they couldn't find her name in the membership list for NASA. They don't realize she's been married three times, and is probably listed under her married names, one of which was Levesque. I don't know what the others were.

"As far as Shiloh,s  NO ... my dogs were registered as GSD,s"

Contradiction??

Just when I thought you guys had cooled off - you start with the BS again.

I'm with you Uglydog - the world would be a better place if we could all be more civil.

And Vonissk - wrong, wrong, wrong.

Shilohs have good hips in general & unlike German Shepherd breeders & the Shiloh wannabees, ISSR Shilohs with bad hips are NEVER bred from.

And temperament? Again - in general they have wonderful temperaments. How can you pass opinion on a breed trait when you have only met ONE Shiloh. Using that argument, my wife reckons all men must be  idiots because the only ones she has met are morons. Hmmmm maybe your argument is right after all...........  

 And, yet AGAIN, Tina, you refuse to answer the question:

When did you title a shiloh shepherd, what was the dog's name, which organization sanctioned the trial.   You know, answers that could lead to verification....or  not?    Offering links ot old photos, and google searches is NOT an answer.  You and your syncophant  made the claim, but now you are both tap-dancing as quickly as you can to avoid it.  Be assured that you are neither dazzling with brilliance, nor baffling with bs.  Your false claim is apparent, transparent and forty-seven kinds of other "arents."

I am done here--my point has been made, as your repeated avoidance (and I use the term advisedly) makes it clear that the claim is a bald-faced lie.

Thanks!

Hi,

I'm new to this message board and I am somewhat surprised about the blindfolds the modern day Schaeferhund people seem to be wearing. Check this site out and you may find out, why more and more former German Shepherd enthusiasts are turning toward the Shiloh Shepherd: http://royalair.org/pasttopresent.htm

They seem to be less crippled.

I grew up with German Shepherd working lines in the 50's. Back then the dogs were used for police work and after their work day was over, they would be family dogs. It's agonizing to watch the decline of this once so wonderful breed.

I'm a bit older now and I don't want to deal with a working line GSD and I did not want to deal with one of those crippled conformation dog like one from a show line. They are build like frogs and are unable to move properly in my opinion. How can they with a sloped and roached back  ? Their hocks touch the ground when they are moving and that is one of the ugliest sights I've ever seen.

My solution: A healthy, well put together Shiloh Shepherd ! I do own a three y.o bitch and she is everything I was looking for in a dog. Beautiful to look at, straight in the back and HEALTHY ! ;)  Granted - I would not use her for SchH work, but she does some mantrailing, sheepherding and therapy work. I'm sure that's more than some of those crooked conformation GSD's are able to perform.

Sorry for bad english - I'm native German.

What a crock!  People who prefer GSDs stick with GSDs, we don't get a different breed, especially one so extremely different from a correct GSD.  If this is the breed for you, fine, enjoy your dog, but accept the fact that a Shiloh will never be a GSD, merely a pale imitation.  The Shiloh Shep is NOTHING like a GSD, never was, never will be. 

Mystere as far as I and pretty much everyone is concerned you have proven that the person who said Shilohs had been titled in schutzhund is nothing but a BS artist, and a  lowlife liar.