Thoughts on Limited Registration - Page 5

The SV controls what you do with a dog as well, but thats how people cheat the system. Many do as described by Kyle. Buy from people overseas who dont care, register in the US with AKC who doesn't care. Viola, I do what I want. For some the ego of I paid cash its my way or highway, is cut nose to spite face. Often getting inferior dogs just to have it your way. Im really ok with that, very much.... big time. As if xrays or a laughable cgc or employment are to much to ask.

Too funny.

Kyle: "Limited registration is bogus. Unless the pup or dog has a physical fault, not for breeding. I have yet to import a pup or dog to the USA on limited registration. Different pricing for males, female and colors is completely bogus as well. This is such a USA thing. In my opinion it has more to do with economics and control than breed quality and population control. Sell the dog unencumbered. Enough of the self righteous crap."

........It's all about control no matter how you spin it. Sell the pups at one price. Give full registration. You can screen buyers anyway you want. 

.......And I will continue to import dogs with full registrations. I would prefer to spend my money in the USA but I am not going to jump through hoops to satisfy someones ego.

 

As a responsible owner, I am 100% with Kyle on this......could not have said this better !    As stated earlier, I walk away without a backward glance if anyone even breathes "limited" to me.  Not a single dog of mine are "inferior dogs" because I walked away from the "limited" folks.

Its not known if you got the best your money can buy as you excluded many based on a small control not on outcome of the dog. But in the end you got what you paid for in order, paperwork then a dog. With the goals in that order its likely you didn't get the best in some occasions. The cheat, SV, switch to AKC does not help the bred, perhaps your the one.... but as a general rule surely you understand the necessity. The dogs are in the crapper and the limited bah hum bugs want everyone breeding them, Im sure things will work out great with that.

For those totally against limited registration-
Do you health test and title your dogs before breeding them?
If so, what does it matter if that is the breeder's requirements to lift to full if you are doing it anyway?
Just trying to get all points of view, even though I have made my decision in regards to my litter.

If so, what does it matter if that is the breeder's requirements to lift to full if you are doing it anyway?

I personally don't like strings attached. In any way, shape or form.  Others may have a different perspective.

IMO, when buying a puppy from someone, you are buying into their lines, their hard work. I see it as a way to protect that, and the puppy itself when it matures.
If you are health testing and titling dog anyway for your program, I don't see why there is any reason for concern for LR. The dog isn't any less yours because of it.
You wouldn't be upset if someone was breeding one of your dogs with no proof of workability, no health testing, and possibly a health issue that was never caught?
Thanks for adding in your opinion!

How is a dog on limited any different than the requirements the SV puts on animals in order to get pink papers for puppies?

A response to Susie's question:
In the UK we do not have "limited registrations";
it's my impression that if we did have, this would
stay in the control of our KC, rather than individual
breeders, anyway.

But we do have a lot of breeders (all breeds), though
far from all of them, who operate the same principle
described on this thred, of charging lower prices for
puppies that are already obviously not going to place
highly in Showing, and a higher rate for 'Show potential'
puppies. The same caveats apply: some breeders do
this to try to ensure any breeding of stock produced by
them stays on the good, healthy lines they have worked
to produce, but also some just use the two-tier pricing
structure to make additional money.
But then, we also have breeders who - while appearing
to charge the same for all their pups, by keeping exact
amounts out of adverts, - decide the price of a pup on the
day by looking at how expensive the model of car is that
the purchaser turns up in !
On the other hand I've also known breeders sell a good 'un
at a lower price to someone they know will really do their
best by the dog, including actually Showing it. Even where
this may involve them in extra expense by assisting the buyer
to get the dog shown.

This is really simple, I bought my female Fiest from a reputable breeder at 10 weeks old with limited reg,s with the option to sign off to full once she was OFA,d and had a working title. I wanted those genetics and bought the dog. Breeder was good to there word. If you don,t like buying limited with a option then don,t buy or sell that way but don,t bash the breeder for there choice! I understand the option and agree with it.

Then you have people like me who pay the full registration price every time and never breed the dog. lol

I just hope the breeders are not mad at me for buying the picks and never breeding. :(