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by Uber Land on 14 March 2009 - 22:03
by GSDXephyr on 15 March 2009 - 00:03
Heather
by mahon on 15 March 2009 - 01:03
I did not go back into the breed with a couple of $200.00 German Shepherds to start with and took time to study the lines that appealled to me and my eye. I looked at the siblings the dams the sire and grand sires and so on. Most of these dogs I did not know. I new a lot of the great and great great grandsires. Now I know a lot of dirt has been swept under the rug while I was away. And I am sure I will find more then a liver color gene if I look hard enough.
20 years ago a white spot on the chest the size of a tennis ball was fround upon and rarely seen in a conformation show. Feet that had white going up the foot past the tip of the toe was a no no.
Well I'll stop there no since in getting on a soap box I say to one self. Good dogs are good dogs the world around no matter the color. Just dont intentionally breed outside the standard. We will produce plenty without haveing to try.
Just my thoughts, mahon
by luvdemdogs on 15 March 2009 - 04:03
While ad hominem may win you points with the lesser educated, it doesn't work with me. Rather than call me names - perchance you might explain WHY you think livers should not be encouraged and bred to add to the breed and the kennel club standard.
Your posts indicate the same kind of unthinking dogma that religious fanatics demonstrate.
When I see those humpbacked abominations that are now accepted as a breed standard - I have to question who is making the rules.
by london town on 15 March 2009 - 05:03
Do you really have to be told why, it states in the standard that whites blues and livers are not the correct colour , if you wish to buy and trial one go for it, but why breed in a fault that you can see right in front of your eyes. JMO
As for your other comment each to there own. As for your comment ( lesser educated) I feel that unnecessary or are you far above the rest of us here
London Town
by luvdemdogs on 15 March 2009 - 05:03
Why are you so quick to accept that the kennel clud is right? Saying "because the kennel club says so" is NOT a good reason. I'm encouraging you to look deeper. WHY not challenge the standard, instead of blindly accepting it as correct?
I am not far above anyone - but having an intelligent discussion is lowered with the use of ad hominem.
by Sherman-RanchGSD on 15 March 2009 - 16:03
He is a living creature and nature is mightier then you or I. Neuter the animal and be glad it is hopefully something as simple as color as apposed to any other number of maladies that can happen in breeding animals.
The sable in the rear also has an interesting coat pattern reminiscent of many years ago my husband I were give a pup from a litter that had a silvering over his whole body much like the pup in the Willis book examples... no papers, beautiful parents, wonderful pup... our friends gave to us... his coat changed and by 8 months he was a normal looking saddle back black and brown German Shepherd his nose, eyes, etc were all black. Anyhow..it was just interesting... and I have never since seen any like that..think that was the late 70's.
Certainly these are not things you breed for..but to condemn or try to shoot others down because life happens is over kill.
From a breeding standpoint I do want to know about such things, am not ashamed to share with others and would value knowing further outcome in the future. The proble is some people always want to scream that the sky is falling..and also there are others that want to put heads in the sand.
Debi
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by Sherman-RanchGSD on 15 March 2009 - 16:03
Debi
by pod on 15 March 2009 - 17:03
That said, I certainly don't think breeding specifically for non standard colours is any better for the breed but if, say a liver sable happened to be of good quality with good health, then better that than use a dog of correct colour but inferior in other criteria.
by Marisa on 15 March 2009 - 20:03
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