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by Alabamak9 on 01 October 2008 - 18:10

DavidB, Eric did have permission to use this field from the owner for clarification. There were written statements of those in attendance sent to USA. Some were people familar in the sport and some unknown first time by standers without axes to grind or sides to take.  Gary also has permission to use this field but to drive over with intent to stop the trial of a member USA Club was uncalled for and should be addressed. If someone ran to the Jefferson Schutzhund club from Central Schutzhund club they would be punishments coming you can take that to the bank with the pick up of a phone call no video or witness would have even been asked for. .  Everyone is in agreement this is counter productive for the sport and  if let continue will kill it there are some of us who do not want that and we are speaking out as we should.  Your statement is why should I care did not affect me is the stance of many but a cowardly  LAZY approach seen by some. You must be new to USA to think they would not trump something up to discredit someone who stood up to them against issues.  I will wait and see what the outcome is like many but if they dare take a spot earned away from someone who earned it that will be a fatal blow for the majority of members. What you fail to understand this is not the first incident not the first clash by many in our region the focus is on Eric now  but he has not always been the target this is just his year.   

VOTE FOR CHANGE

Marlene  


by Daveb on 01 October 2008 - 20:10

Marlene

So I would not be a coward if if i blindly listened to you,,, then I would be a sheep.

No new facts presented, just an opportunist promoting himself during a time of turmoil,and others using tired hersay to further the turmoil..

Marlene  and alaman who can post some court doccuments?

Until then

Just more internet gossip

Dave

 


by alaman on 01 October 2008 - 22:10

Marlene you are a hoot and can't even get my name right . 

But none of this matters. The USA knows the truth and it breaks your heart they didn't do anything. It's simple why they didn't. There was no cause to do anything to Mr Hanrahan. They know ALL the lies told and, why Mr Hanrahan took the action he did. Unlike you, they actually have ALL the facts and not internet stories, gossip, and rumors  You might want to get the same before blovating again and not let your personal feelings about Mr Hanrahan cloud your "judgement"..

Also, why hasn't your boy Mr Eisenberg been back on any board giving us the results of the trial as he said he would. His silence is very telling  but hey, who cares?. Oh and by the way, I have friends in both clubs and talk to some regularily.

I once  heard a  statement several years ago by a wise  person. That person said, while wife and husband while being assailed on the internet, that it didn't matter when asked why they did not respond. This person said those who didn't like them would never believe the truth, even when presented with all the facts, while those that knew them would never believe the lies, innuendos and gossip . This person said that it was those without ALL the facts who always assailed others but wanted to try to make themselves look better and more knowledgeable than they were.. That is the beauty and curse of the internet, one can make statements without ALL the facts to back them up.

But now it's time to move on. The WUSA is next week and time to focuson that. Bye


by Louise M. Penery on 01 October 2008 - 23:10

Randall, what you don't discuss is the distribution of those sub rosa videos that by Howie Rodriguez to the Judges' commitee and its affect on your suspension,


NWilz

by NWilz on 01 October 2008 - 23:10

I don't normally speak up but "Alaman", you need to get real.  I saw the videos and video doesn't lie.  Gary Hanrahan behaved like a complete idiot and it embarrasses me that such an incident occured within my state.  From what I hear the only reason he suffered no consequence is because of his money and connections.  Do I think the USA would back me if I acted like a complete psycho and drove my vehicle over tracks at a trial?  HELL NO.  Who else would get away with it besides Gary Hanrahan?  Watch the videos of it and then tell me it's gossip.....proof is on film.

Just my .02.

-Nichole


by Rainhaus on 02 October 2008 - 00:10

When the shit hits the fan in this country and it has.It wont matter about clubs etc.It will be if your GSD has the instinct to work where necessary..that is if FEMA allows.


by Alabamak9 on 02 October 2008 - 02:10

Excuse me  Alaman  I want to give you your proper credit Carl Randall 1510 Hwy 29 Onenonta Alabama 35121 age 65...

  If you dont do anything nothing could be on video if you think someone is were they should not be call the authories simple enough  ...rules and bylaws apply to every member not just the chosen ones if there some who belong to USA that rules do not apply they have a obligation to notify members so we understand and can avoid them at all costs ...follow me ..... lies and smears on the internet plenty about lots of things&people  this is as clear as your white head...if you got friends in clubs invite your buddy and both of you drive over a track during a trial... I am betting when you hit the right club you  might learn this is not something you should  do  ...send video please  

Marlene


by alaman on 02 October 2008 - 03:10

WOW Marlene, you are a piece of cake. You can't dispute what I said nor are you interested in the facts. You have to resort to the same personal tactics the one you support does. Explains why you get along. I guess what I've have heard about you  from several sources is true. Thanks for proving it.

The difference between you and me is before I shoot off my mouth, I get the facts since I don't want to look like an idiot and. can prove my posts. I've talked to various  parties  and have actually found out what went on. You might get off the computer and phone gossiping  and do the same. You obviously let your personal feelings keep you from the truth  because of Blackstar or whatever his name was cloud your judgement and would rather spread rumors than learn the truth. Must be sad to have to resort to personal attacks to feel good

I find it interesting you never answer my question of why Mr Eisenberg has never come back as he promised to do to gives us the results of the trial since you obviously talk to him. I know why. But since you are not interested in the truth, no futher discussion with you will occur. It's not worth the  time as life is too short. When I need humor, I will watch the Comedy Channel rather than read your posts.

 

 


deacon

by deacon on 02 October 2008 - 03:10

>    You are an attorney I presume alaman because you can feed a line of !!#$%&*_+? to avoid answering the question we presume you already know since you keep defending him, why did he run over the tracks??






 


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