One breeder produces between 100-200 puppies a year???? - Page 3

Its breeders like him who cause this whole world to be over populated with dogs. the more and more i hear things like this i pray to God that they pass a law through out the whole united states about breeding dogs. I'm tired of  all the dogs in world not having a home, having to be put down, and being thrown in the shelters. Its time for a change in the world of breeding there needs to be limits on everything.

ps sorry if i offended any legitament breeders but I had to say it cause its ridiculous on the amount of puppies being produced in world.

"the more and more i hear things like this i pray to God that they pass a law through out the whole united states about breeding dogs."

Please don't pray for any such thing.  I understand your feelings, but such a law will only penalize the good, caring people, while as always the ones out to make a buck will simply ignore the law and do what they want.

Education is the answer.  Truly.  All the buzzwords on that site, you'd think the dogs were all working police dogs or SchH III's, but when you look at it, the studs are just babies - 1 year old all of them - and there are NO titles, NO hip x-rays, NOTHING.  If people are educated then they will have the same reaction as we do - what do you mean, "ultimate," "world class," "healthy" - NOTHING about your dogs is proven in any of these things.

How many of us started with a pet and learned to ask about OFA hips, etc.?   Education will wipe out these people, let's not pass any more laws.  Sure, there will always be suckers, but education is the answer!

yes, i understand education is the answer but there are some breeders out there that do not educate their customers. There should be a limit on breeding because its very sadding to see the results of irresponsible breeding and breeders. Therefore, if there is a limit then we would not have the issue now with so many dogs being produce and spay/neutering laws being passed. I'm not just talking in regards to this kennel. I'm talking in general of all kennels and breeds. My major concern is puppy mills, pet stores, backyard breeders ( ones in it for $$$). For breeders who do this as a profession and produce quality dogs NOT quanity these comments are not reared to you.

I'm glad there are great breeders out there that take the time out to produce great dogs (health) and what the breed is suppose to be and represent. I'm not a breeder nor do I want to be. I do however educate people who buy dogs from petstores or from non legitment breeders.  If there is a way to pass a law to destroy puppy mills and petstores selling puppies ...I hope it happens and i am for it. If people want to break laws then we should start hitting them up with heffty(sp) fines when they are caught. For exmaple, I had a discussion with one of my patients who came to me about high kill shelters. If people want to give up dogs left and right they need to come up with shelter fees of relenquishing a pet. So that they will learn next time what it takes to own and care for one. Yeah, they may end up letting them go to run the streets then to avoid such fees but then they should be hit with a bigger fine or time in jail to teach them.  May be in some ways I see things are wrong and some disagree but its not fair to the dogs. They didn't ask to be here!!! People choose to bring them here and not be responsible.

I would recommend any one to buy from a reputable breeder who is not looking to produce quanity($$$) of dogs only quality. I wish more people will stop buying from the local petstore and open their eyes!

I had 2 litters born on 1 day  15 pups I dont even think of more than that at 1 time or even in a year

"Therefore, if there is a limit then we would not have the issue now with so many dogs being produce and spay/neutering laws being passed."

Nonsense.  Dog fighting is illegal now.  It's a felony.  Has that stopped it? 

Not properly feeding or sheltering your pet is illegal now.  Yet people do it every day.  Limit laws will only hurt the law-abiding.  The others will simply do what they want, when they want.  They want to breed, they'll breed, laws or no laws.  Enforcement is the problem.  And to give government authority to come poking around EVERYONE'S business - I'm not for that at all.

"My major concern is puppy mills, pet stores, backyard breeders ( ones in it for $$$)."

Backyard breeders, eh?  Someone with their 1 or 2 bitches lovingly cared for is a backyard breeder?  If you make a profit on a litter are you "in it for $$$"?  How much profit? Most important:  Who decides?  You?  Me?  PETA?  HSUS?

"If people want to give up dogs left and right they need to come up with shelter fees of relenquishing a pet."

You're right - people will not pay a fee to drop off a dog at the shelter - they'll simply let it loose somewhere.

"Yeah, they may end up letting them go to run the streets then to avoid such fees but then they should be hit with a bigger fine or time in jail to teach them. "

And just how are you going to find them?  They drive the dog 20 miles out into the country and kick it out of the car - there's no way you will find them to "teach them."  Won't work.

I really understand your feelings, truly I do, but we must have solutions that WORK.  I agree with you: Enforce the laws now on the books.  If someone is mistreating 1 dog or 20 dogs, it's wrong.  If someone is properly feeding and caring for and training and loving 1 dog or 20, then what business is it of mine?  I might think 20 is way too many, but there are many, many people who are convinced that 3 is way too many for one person to have.  PETA admits they think ONE is way too many.  Again:  who decides?

Tess you do have points ..i will admit. But like I said I have my own opinion about the dog world and its ridiculous how many dogs are produced each year and the amount thrown away like trash. Yeah things are illegal but when they do get caught in the act they are in for a shit load of trouble.

I feel that more breeders should screen their potential buyers. I have read countless websites where breeders don't give sell their dogs to just any one...which is a plus. When all said in done there is a problem through out the whole U.S. in regards to the population of animals and honestly I would like to see something done about it.