DIARRHEA NON STOP--- WHAT DO YOU FEED YOUR DOG? - Page 3

Hills Science Diet crap    thats what your vet just suggested...Sorry but one of my pet pieves is that  advice...run as fast as you can...money making monkey for a vet...no not sorry....read the threads on this sight and if your dog was not tested by this monkey, he is just selling you a crock of   you know what....

I hope you didnt buy his nasty Hills Science Diet mess....go home take your dogs kibble and cut it back...administer an anti diahrea of some kind... bananas mashed in  a small amount of kibble with chicken juice on it....

Immodium ad liquid infant dose 3 time a day ...lots of water. and start the kibble back in two days...keep a liquid like diet of chicken ;/rice broth, with bananas or pumpkin and get the dogs stool solid...I keep Flagyll on hand  1 /250 every 6 hours first 2 days, and one a day after that..for three days.......when solid   return to the kibble with only pumpkin , a little extra virgin olive oil and keep on one diet for a month...then ad as you want the other ingredients..

Hills Science diet has been holding hands with vets for years and a cheap grade of contents thrown together with God knows what and it has nothing in it that you cant make at home for very little time and trouble...Rice and chicken basically... with a anti diahrea stuck in it...who knows what is in those cans...

Did he tell you why he prescribed the Almighty Hills food?

He said he didn't plan for me to be on the Hills Diet Dry Kibble for more than 20lbs... which would be a week or so... then to switch to a quality, but not over the top food.

Now, I am at a loss... I don't like the advice from the vet I went to today. I don't like the lack of help from my old vet. I do like the advice on this forum... but everyone has an opinion, and I will have to figure out what the best route is.

I don't like the idea of changing the kibble often. I do think the Wysong is too much for them.... I also think the HIlls Kibble looks, and smells like Crap Food... and the ingredients in it are weak.

I need to digest all this... and come up with a solid plan.

Thanks so much, again.

Jacob

JA,

I think you get it !    Digest what you have heard from so many source's now and then use your head and make your own mind up accordingly..    It's not rocket science and a simple plan is alway's the best plan.

I wish you luck and good health for your dog's.

Brent.

Far too much food ,and too many supplements i agree with Rose, Cut food down by 50% infact stop feeding for a full day

Cut out all supplements and extras full time,

If you are feeding a kibble like you are, One VIt  E Capsule a day and a small squirt of Salmon Oil on there first feed of the day is all you need to give them providing the kibble is top quality

 Plus check both Dogs for Worms & Gardia Worms

You say you feed by a Cup depends on how big the cup is, better to put the amount of food by Cups you feed each dog on the scales weigh the total amount of cups per day per Dog then divid it into the amount of feeds you give a day

If the total amount on the scales comes to too much then cut some out, Better to slighty under feed a dog than over feed them

Steve

I have always stuck with Purina puppy chow through many yrs.I have never done this two to three times feeding a day.The kibble has always been available throughout each day.Always plenty of water to not only drink but kids pools which they prefer to drink from and stand in..The "dirtier water". The thing you must remember is consistency.Don't over due and try so hard.Go back to just basic..and when you do...forget all of these additives.For example Flax seed.It actually is a laxative.Pick a kibble and it doesnt have to be an expensive one.If you choose to feed three times a day by what the bag states per weight.You may find that one may not eat as plenty as the other.The difference of age could be a cause as well...with stress.I just dont believe in these 20 minute feedings.Your boy with the new puppy may just be eating more two quick because the new pup is there...and she as well may be eating too quickly.There is NOT an exact amount that should be fed to a dog of any age/weight..Learn this first.I do understand about Giardia..It is a menace that is basically unseen by most vets..moreso all.Coccidia is passed through generally the females.I have had to treat one time for Giardia.Coccidia once when I purchased Jazena's dam.Both are an epidemic so to speak...but I keep my grounds off limits to other dogs.The new influenza that is going around that has no vaccine..just another on a chain pole.I rarely vaccinate...period!!!That would be OT here.On another thread in ref to feeding chocolate.Someone said why take the chance? They will stick with their carrots.Hmmm I take no chances at all with my dogs...or horses for that matter.That is why I don't compete.Good advice for you if you are going to.Sulpha/Trimeth..Periodically..do a course of that.

Its a case of finding what works, but the best advice is to get the dogs tested for EPI and dont rely on the fecal test that can be done, insist on a blood test.  Its well worth it.  I wasted 3 months trying different strategies and my dog continued to have the runs and lost 15 kilo, nearly died.  Scare story but you if the test is done and rules out EPI at least you know what you are dealing with.  Once EPI is diagnosed you can get the enzymes on the food straight away and see an improvement within two days.

If EPI is the cause, get the vet to check if you dog needs B12 injections or suppliments.

Re food, mine is now on a dried food which is 19% protien, 3% fibre 12% oil.  It is rice and lamb and gluten free.  Some dogs have the runs as they are intolerant to gluten.  This suits him with his condition and he will stop on it.  I used to feed raw but just cant get the same results with the enzymes on raw.  He does weekly have some 'gravy' made from liquidised broccoli and carrot on his food.

Good advice given here re chicken and rice and nothing else to steady the poohs down. 

I have heard of people getting really good results from Chappie dog food which is really cheap in the UK but it upsets mines tum.  I do think its a case of finding something that works and sticking with it. 

Good luck and dont delay too long if the poohs continue, get that test done.  My dog nearly went into renal failure because of the messing around by the vet of saying it was  this and that and trying different foods etc..

Flax seed is a laxative.

SS

O.K. I like this forum even better than the old Corvette Forum I wasted so many years on while my Old G.S.D. was handicapped and I was bored!

Thanks so much to all of you... individually!!!  (you all have been very helpful and supportive... I think you will see more of me around here. :)

Rama and AKeelah's poos are both much better fast on the I-D canine from Dr. Hill's

NO, NO WAY do I plan to keep them on that.... I will very gradually switch them over to something else...  I think I will do a search on this board on kibble.

As long as the poo's stay solid... I don't see the point in checking them for anyting else... it is like most of you said. I have been trying too hard, feeding them way too much rich food with too many supplements.... I can't believe I wasted sooo much money with my last vet!  I wish I could tell her how I feel, but it is a small island!!!

very best,

the Angel Family...

Jacob and Kristi, Rama and Akeelah!!!!

Moderate rate of growth of pups would lead to higher bone density in adulthood, vs as fast as possible growth.

If an older  pup is chubby from eating too much and too high protein and fats, it may spur too fast growth.

BTW, I think the "formulated for large breed puppies" concept is only applicable for free choice feeding, and for owners who  feed too much. Otherwise, if the owner feeds measured amounts to achieve moderate growth, then a fairly high protein and fat diet is better for all pups, IMO.

Very young pups should be chubby, IMO.

A couple of things here.....

DID YOU EVER CHECK THE STOOLS FOR GIARDIA AND COCCIDIA?????? Both of these are hard to detect and do not always show up in regular stool checks!!!!! The stools can and do fluctuate between formed and diarrhea. You owe it to your dog's health to make sure this is not the case! It is VERY common and can reak havoc with their health.

Hill's ID is especially for digestive problems and is NOT a food that they are suppose to stay on.  It does work. But it is the ONLY Hills food I would advocate. It is meant to be a weak mild food to get the digestive system back on track.

Debby