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by susie on 01 April 2017 - 14:04
There are two ways of selling - either quality or quantity.
For me there is no reason to breed a working dog breed "for everybody" - too many breeds already lost their initial temperament - I´d prefer to go the "Lamborghini route" - less dogs, but better quality...
by Bundishep on 01 April 2017 - 21:04
by Rik on 02 April 2017 - 04:04
Susie stated straight up that this was advice for the newbie that wanted to do "whatever" with the GSD. It is good advice. That it does not agree with your idea of the GSD changes nothing. It doesn't agree with mine either and most likely not susies, but still good advice.
IMO, the chance of a newbie getting a pup that excels at anything is pretty close to 0% or less unless they luck out or do a lot of research or hook up with someone successful in what they want to accomplish.
JMO,
Rik
by vk4gsd on 02 April 2017 - 05:04
The more famous the ped eg sire, the easier it is to get a famous ped puppy, no matter if it is show or work.
I live nowhere and can get drago, elluite, quardes, all the cz famous dogs.....
Breeders that dont title or compete typically stack their lines full of oldest and latest famous dogs. Hard working breeders in contrast make new unknown dogs famous.
by Hundmutter on 02 April 2017 - 06:04
Surely, for a 'newbie' to the breed, the crux of this thred is "because you want to excel in ..." ? How about THIS perspective, to broaden the discussion and introduce a different angle on buying a puppy (or getting any age dog of the working breeds) ?: If you are a newbie, you are likely to have more success in the long term at any of the above if you FIRST learn about, and to live with, the dog. By all means get an adult, a rescued dog, ... or a puppy if you really want to start with one. (And there's no denying the fun aspect of that !) But take some time to gain at least a little knowledge and experience, without the pressure that THIS dog must excel at your chosen activity.
by duke1965 on 02 April 2017 - 06:04
by Allan1955 on 02 April 2017 - 10:04
To excel at any dog sport/activity requires a commitment equivalent to pursuing any human sport to a descent level. The ones that have what it takes will get there anyway.
Newbie that don't, will never excel despite the best advice.
by vk4gsd on 02 April 2017 - 10:04
IPO you will not even get to the starting gate without depending on and relying on the skill of other people from the get go.
Please don't bullshit to the newbs that all you need is effort and commitment.
by Allan1955 on 02 April 2017 - 13:04
VK, commitment is the first stepping stone to any endeavour, certainly when it involves dog training.
Obviously you will need a club for IPO that is a no brainer.
by BlackMalinois on 02 April 2017 - 15:04
Not only the pup most be some talented also the newbie handler mus have some talent and skills , I know newbies who trained with real good
quality trainers but they never will be at that level or will ever be good handlers why dog training is not so easy you
need very good vision , timing, reading dogs and know how to anticipate, not every single dog is the same you will always fall hard and make a lot mistakes in the beginning , but that does not matter you will take all that experience to your next dog.
If you are a young healthy person start also decoy work you will learn a LOT about other dogs and training.There are many world class trainers who are also very good decoys.
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