family protective training for my german sheperd

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by starrchar on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

Don't do it! Been there, done that and would never do it again.
Char

by Uglydog on 26 January 2009 - 21:01

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by Mindhunt on 26 January 2009 - 22:01

I personally feel that if I have a protection trained dog (which I have 2), then I want to be the handler and learn all I can about my dog and have a "hand in" and "eye on" how my dog is trained. The dog is going to be part of my family and also I am assuming a huge liability in having this type of trained dog. I also feel that if you don't have the time (not being nasty or trying to be disrespectrul in any way) to train with your dog, now is not the time to have one. These dogs need lots of attention like exercise, play, continued training refreshers to keep both of you in top form. I also feel you would be missing out on learning quite a bit about you and your dog, after all, you will be trusting this dog with your family and friends, you should know all you can about your dog.

by HighDesertGSD on 26 January 2009 - 22:01

About ten years ago in my area a protection trained GSD, presumably SchH trained, attacked and disfigured a woman owner.

Terrible it sounded at the time. But it turned out that the owner had bought the dog as a trained adult and the attack happened right after ownership.

Likely the woman feared the dog and the fear was telegraphed to the dog.

It is a case of the rich getting richer, the poor getting poorly. The assertive character knows how to be alpha, firm, reasonable without being abusive, and so benefits from a protection dog.

The fearful and submissive cannot handle the dog.

by Mindhunt on 27 January 2009 - 03:01

Calito, I should probably clarify a little in my earlier post since it sounded kind of snippy. That was not the way I meant it.
I do believe that you personally should handle your dog during training. I am not sure if you have kids or how old they are, my son knew what to do with our dogs from the get-go. He worked with them and knew what was allowed and what wasn't. Because I trained with my dogs, I trusted them with my family and my son felt comfortable with them. He also learned at a young age that a protection trained dog is not something he should "show off" to friends (like having respect for guns in the home, not taking them out to show off).
I guess I can't emphasize enough the liability and responsibility that comes with having this type of dog. You should know every quirk your dog has as should your family. If you send your dog away, how can you learn about your dog? Having the trainer tell you is one thing, but just like I believe dogs learn best when they are able to experience learning for themselves, so I believe you will benefit best from training with your own dog. Don't send your dog away, find a reputable trainer in the area and train with your dog. It is rewarding.
As you can tell, I feel very strongly about this. I have seen the bad side of dogs sent away for traininer and owners coming to class to "fix" their dog because they don't fully understand what their dog is doing, why it is doing the behavior or how the trainer trained the dog.

by 4pack on 27 January 2009 - 03:01

Not to mention...these people are terrible decoys and trainers. Just watch a couple of their videos. It's horrible.

by Sam1427 on 27 January 2009 - 03:01

DON'T do it! Do a search on Kreative Kennels here. Find a trainer near you and do the training yourself. Your dog will learn to protect YOU, which is what you want.

P.T. Barnum was right.

by Ryanhaus on 27 January 2009 - 16:01

Ditto uglydog.

Calito, you should train your dog yourself, what if your dog forgets you in a year,

I knew a man that was very well off, and paid thousands for a fully trained protection dog,

the dog ended up attacking him

Your dog or should I say any dog bonds better with the person training him, it's a kind of mutual

respect for one another,

by Rexy on 27 January 2009 - 16:01

Simply owning a GSD and the unknown of what the dog may be capable of is family protection in it's self. Our boy will bark growl and lunge on command and people are easily fearful of him. Not too many people will mess with a GSD on duty when not knowing the dog's capabilities and training.

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