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by Mystere on 14 January 2009 - 22:01
"...and yet they came...and yet they came... " Wasn't that a line in some horror movie? Seems apt.
by Sunsilver on 15 January 2009 - 00:01
I stand by my claim. Back before Tina split her breed off from the GSD, she WAS heavily involved in Schutzhund with her Shiloh Shepherds:
In 1962 I wanted to start building my own reputation, and chose Konigin for my kennel name. I had researched all of the top kennels around, and seen some dogs at the shows Margo took me to, so I knew what I wanted. I already had a Liebestraum and a Wikingerblut female, now I wanted to expand. Odin von Busecker Schloss, was my idea of near perfection, I felt that his lines would cross well with my girls. Yet I was missing some of the confident temperaments I needed for the strenuous Schutzhund competitions I planned to train for. The Piastendamm dogs solved that problem for me quickly! Although not as big as I had hoped for, their temperaments were impeccable! When combined with the superior intelligence of the Liebestraum lines, this was an unbeatable combination!
Over the next decade I devoted every spare minute I had to my dogs. I degreed 14 Schutzhund dogs for NASA, while still participating in as many show circuits as I could squeeze in!
(Link: http://www.shilohshepherd.com/kennelof.htm )
If Tina refuses to give you the details, that's her perogative. Given how rudely you've treated her and her dogs, I'm suprised she even bothers to answer you at all!
by Mystere on 15 January 2009 - 00:01
I stand by my posts, too. This is simply a crock and Tina does not respond to the simple queries because she can't: some of the folks who were in NASA are still alive to dispute any specific lies!!
"Degreed" in schutzhund???? That sounds like a dead give-away in and of itself. Rather than continue to quote your "bible" at us, why not respond to the specific queries? Put up, or shut up. But, of course, you'll do neither.
But, you will still drink the Kool--aide. <sigh> 
by Mystere on 15 January 2009 - 00:01
by Uglydog on 15 January 2009 - 01:01
Personal Protection Plus!!
And Schutzhund...Exhibit A
by Mystere on 15 January 2009 - 01:01
They should seek AKC recognition---they could sell even more shilohs!!
by Sunsilver on 15 January 2009 - 01:01
by wuzzup on 15 January 2009 - 02:01
IM may be wrong but I do not believe the AKC recognized schz titles back in the sixties.So how would her pedigrees prove too any of you her dogs were schz titled back then ?
by Uglydog on 15 January 2009 - 02:01
When they were Registered has Nothing to do with it.
Tina marketed them for SchH. And Personal Protection.
Not 1 has been or Had Been SchH titled. Thats dishonest. And unethical in my book.
I havent seen many 134lb GSDs titling SchH. She knew well what she was doing.
Other Shiloh breeders & Owners are alot more honest in the Shilohs Working ability, or lack thereof.
Its all really quite sad to me.
by wuzzup on 15 January 2009 - 03:01
Well I have a dog off AKC shiloh,Shilohs SMOKE-IN SZAR,CD one name in a long pedigree Yes she was mixed with ddr.She weighed over 100 pounds and she would go all day.I still have some off spring in my dogs and they would take a sch title.They may not score a 300 but they would be more then willing to do the work..They would give there all and then some.Oh and I have never had any hip problems with them.Would i buy a shiloh of today ?NO.I DO NOT LIKE THE MIX ,BUT IF SOMEONE GAVE ME ONE AND I HAD THE ROOM I WOULD TAKE IT.WOULD I BREED IT ?NO.LOVE IT?YES.
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