WUSV dogs that fail............ - Page 18

Yup, Blackmal, not many sport dogs ( not even 'top ipo' nor top knpv dogs) get to create a blood trail like this while defending their owner from an intruder...

And done by this three year old female...BTW, this is a Puci granddaughter !

And durin the time Sarita was trying to tear the guy's stomach inside out, the guy never complained about what 'drive' she was in; he only screamed from the pain !

  

 

Well done, Sarita! Did you own her or just breed her?

Joanro,
Your physical evidence speaks to the crux of the issue for me. It shouldn't be about sport vs. PP vs. whatever. For me, the ideal GSD has enough intensity of the various drives and the nerves to be able to do well at sport, be a good dual certified police dog and a good home companion/protector. Sport is not as much of the problem as breeding for podium dogs is, particularly in IPO. IMO, it is a major misconception that most of the higher level sport dogs are not capable of real work. Some are and some are not. Breeding exclusively for sport leads to imbalance and other issues including nerve issues, health issues, etc. It is not so different than breeding exclusively for conformation. Some breeders will go with a breeding in the likelihood of producing one or two top sport dogs at the expense of a higher likelihood of hip/elbow problems. Same goes for breeding overly defensive dogs thinking they are tough when actually their defensiveness might be related to insecurity and a lack of discernment.

Sunny, she is from one of my litters.

Apple, yes, i agree.

 

I raised the sire of Sarita, and trained him to schH 3 but only put schH 1 on him. He did well enough for advancement, but his obedience was not flashy at all. Tracking and protection were super.

I also own Sarita's dam. I raised her also from little puppy, but trained her to herd...working a herd of tough goats.

Sarita's owner bred her to his malinois. One of the males from that breeding is in the northeast in academy for a police department.

Here's the malininois she was bred to ( this dog is now in Arizona working BP on the southern border)

Two of their pups ...twelve weeks here, this picture was morning before Sarita tore up the intruder ....

 

.^^ 12 wk old GSD/Mal X

Out of the litter with two pups above 

One year old male

^^ GSD/Mal X

Apple, excellent post! I agree 100%

Joan, those are really cute pups!

Haven't seen too many mal/GSD crosses in my part of the world. I am surprised it isn't done more often to produce working dogs for LE. and military.

Apple, you sure you’re not me??lol, I have sung this exact song for many years....

Gustav, as more evedence to truth of what Apple and you are saying, even in that Mal/ gsd litter from my Body daughter, out of four pups, two are training in K9LE, one sport, and one female as family companion/protector.

I totally agree with you, Apple.

Good girl Sarita ! Your grandmom would be proud of you 

@Black Malinois: For once we agree with each other! I'm not worried about the quality in the least. I've seen the exact same thing. The quality has been going up and up and up and up. And only those not following the breed are stuck in the past. And the whole discussion of defense and prey is tiring.

To me, it's about the total dog. I don't breed for anything specific. It's the total dog. I've got a dog that can do bitework one minute and go to the hospital with me the next. The German Shepherd is supposed to be versatile, period!

sunsilver, it is done all the time , the majority of LE dog breeders in central europe only breed mixes, here is one we did last week