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by Rookabadooka on 31 July 2010 - 01:07
Thanks for your years of sacrifice. I always grew up with the understanding that "God" is "Love" the tie that binds us. I hope for you all the happiness that one life can give. Your road will not be easy, life never is even under the most "traditional" of circumstances. Bless you and and your road ahead. may the Good one keep you.
~Rooka
~Rooka

by Myracle on 31 July 2010 - 02:07
In other words, Raymond, you don't have an answer for why you've chosen to pick and choose which passages of the Bible are relavent, and which aren't. [setting aside the mistranslation entirely, for a moment.]

by BabyEagle4U on 31 July 2010 - 04:07
mudwick, no disrespect, but even Paul is clear in Romans. He repeats himself many times. Maybe it's you who picks and chooses which passages for your convenience ?
Remember now, your reference is the Bible for cryin out loud in the worlds view here, maybe you should just stop with it ... the word has but one path of life in about 33 different directions ... you got lost bigtime in Matthew and evidently again in 2nd Timothy. Although you should have gotten back on the path of life in Numbers, apparently not. LOL
I dunno. Good luck to ya.
"Let no one deceive you with empty words"
Remember now, your reference is the Bible for cryin out loud in the worlds view here, maybe you should just stop with it ... the word has but one path of life in about 33 different directions ... you got lost bigtime in Matthew and evidently again in 2nd Timothy. Although you should have gotten back on the path of life in Numbers, apparently not. LOL
I dunno. Good luck to ya.
"Let no one deceive you with empty words"


by Myracle on 31 July 2010 - 04:07
*sigh* We've already covered this...
Once again, you're taking the remarks in Paul's letter to the Romans, addressing the problems of Pagans, out of context, as well as mistranslating them. The greek word that Paul used to reference homosexuality as is not correctly translated as "unnatural", but rather, references what is culturally unacceptable [an entirely different thing, altogether].
When Paul calls "homosexuality" culturally unacceptable, he is, ONCE AGAIN, referring to practices of forcible homosexual rape of heterosexual men, and pederasty.
Paul makes clear that it is idolatry [a practice which, for the Pagans, the neighbors to whom Paul was referring, included forcible sodomy as a "sacrifice" to their false gods] was the issue, not homosexuality.
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I'd still like to know if Raymond stones disobedient children to death, since he subscribes to the Old Testament laws.
Once again, you're taking the remarks in Paul's letter to the Romans, addressing the problems of Pagans, out of context, as well as mistranslating them. The greek word that Paul used to reference homosexuality as is not correctly translated as "unnatural", but rather, references what is culturally unacceptable [an entirely different thing, altogether].
When Paul calls "homosexuality" culturally unacceptable, he is, ONCE AGAIN, referring to practices of forcible homosexual rape of heterosexual men, and pederasty.
Paul makes clear that it is idolatry [a practice which, for the Pagans, the neighbors to whom Paul was referring, included forcible sodomy as a "sacrifice" to their false gods] was the issue, not homosexuality.
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I'd still like to know if Raymond stones disobedient children to death, since he subscribes to the Old Testament laws.

by BabyEagle4U on 31 July 2010 - 04:07
I dunno, but for some reason I see Moloch masquerading on my PC screen. LMAO
Where's that Muhammad when you need him .....
"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you?" ~ Qur'an 26:165
Where's that Muhammad when you need him .....

"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you?" ~ Qur'an 26:165

by Myracle on 31 July 2010 - 04:07
How did the Koran enter into this?
[Muslims are historically notorious for pedrasty, btw.]
[Muslims are historically notorious for pedrasty, btw.]

by BabyEagle4U on 31 July 2010 - 05:07
Listen, there is one path of life. It doesent matter what book you read they all link together on the path of life, they literally reference each other in peace .. there are translations that deceive in all of them, by design of course. Only YOU can find it. Not everyone does.
Same with the words in our Constitution and Declaration .... LIFE is #1 for a reason. America's reason is "In God we Trust"
Some appreciate that, some don't.
I thought everyone knew this. lol
Same with the words in our Constitution and Declaration .... LIFE is #1 for a reason. America's reason is "In God we Trust"
Some appreciate that, some don't.
I thought everyone knew this. lol

by Two Moons on 31 July 2010 - 05:07
Bible study?

by Myracle on 31 July 2010 - 06:07
Ah.
So basically, the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, but if that doesn't work, then its just wrong anyway, because you say so.
The founding fathers weren't Christian, btw.
They also made clear that America is NOT a Christian nation:
The Constitution of the United States of America makes no mention of God, whatsoever, anywhere.
Thomas Jefferson originally wrote in the Declaration of Independance:
It was Congress who changed it to "Endowed by their creator".
Regardless, the Declaration of Independance is not a legal document. The LEGAL document is the Constitution, which makes NO mention of God.
In God We Trust was not the national motto until 1956.
So basically, the Bible says homosexuality is wrong, but if that doesn't work, then its just wrong anyway, because you say so.
The founding fathers weren't Christian, btw.
They also made clear that America is NOT a Christian nation:
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
The Constitution of the United States of America makes no mention of God, whatsoever, anywhere.
Thomas Jefferson originally wrote in the Declaration of Independance:
"All men are created equal and independent. From that equal creation they derive rights inherent and inalienable."
It was Congress who changed it to "Endowed by their creator".
Regardless, the Declaration of Independance is not a legal document. The LEGAL document is the Constitution, which makes NO mention of God.
In God We Trust was not the national motto until 1956.

by BabyEagle4U on 31 July 2010 - 06:07
just noise lol
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