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by trevorbarber on 19 February 2014 - 16:02
Any advice of building prey in defenseive workingline gsds
by Hired Dog on 19 February 2014 - 17:02
How old is the dog, when is it defensive and how?
by greyhoundgirl on 19 February 2014 - 18:02
I was told my dog was a defensive dog. Found out it wasn't the dog but the bad trainer. Switched clubs and all was good.
by Koots on 09 March 2014 - 01:03
How old is the dog, what kind of foundation bitwork have you done?
If the dog is mature, you need to work with the most dominant drive, then channel the dog to the other drive. This requires an experienced helper, with a good ability to "read" the dog to know what to give the dog and when.
If the dog is mature, you need to work with the most dominant drive, then channel the dog to the other drive. This requires an experienced helper, with a good ability to "read" the dog to know what to give the dog and when.
by bravo22 on 09 March 2014 - 01:03
Koots: "like"
by vk4gsd on 09 March 2014 - 04:03
find a super-helper if you can.
stay below the dog's defensive threshold. you cant train what isn't there and if the dog genuinely has no usable prey drive then you have a very limited and unreliable dog in bite-work, that for ethical reasons should not continue in this venue and be exposed to a life of stress that is defence drive.
find a way for the dog to feel comfortable and enjoy the work without feeling stressed, ie play, play, play.
good luck
stay below the dog's defensive threshold. you cant train what isn't there and if the dog genuinely has no usable prey drive then you have a very limited and unreliable dog in bite-work, that for ethical reasons should not continue in this venue and be exposed to a life of stress that is defence drive.
find a way for the dog to feel comfortable and enjoy the work without feeling stressed, ie play, play, play.
good luck
by duke1965 on 09 March 2014 - 06:03
comment of VK is too simple in my opinion, there are some differences in dogs working in defence, how old is the dog and is he pulling the line towards the helper to bite, or backing out and avoiding confrontation with helper so to speak
you might want to make distance between helper and bitepillow bigger by putting the pillow on a 30 feet line(trackingline) and start to drag it or swing it, when the dog carries it , let pressure on the line down praise,and when he is loosing interest the helper can put pressure on the line, usually this will make the dog hold stronger, it is important that he will enjoy to carry his prey
if this works well your helper can shorten the line step by step , important is what others already said, it is important to have experianced helper that can read the dog
you might want to make distance between helper and bitepillow bigger by putting the pillow on a 30 feet line(trackingline) and start to drag it or swing it, when the dog carries it , let pressure on the line down praise,and when he is loosing interest the helper can put pressure on the line, usually this will make the dog hold stronger, it is important that he will enjoy to carry his prey
if this works well your helper can shorten the line step by step , important is what others already said, it is important to have experianced helper that can read the dog
by KYLE on 20 March 2014 - 20:03
You have been given some good advice. But once again hard to diagnose w/o seeing what is going on. Age, what has prior training been like, what is going on to put the dog into defense? You need a helper that can read a dog and have more than one method for working dogs. Helpers need to be more like Felix the cat and reach into the magic bag of tricks. Attach wedge or pillow to leash, take helper out of the picture. Helper should be sideways and moving away when presenting prey object. Make sure your helper is not facing (full frontal torso) the dog when giving the prey item. Good Luck
by Liberatore K9 on 21 March 2014 - 14:03
Or you could find a helper that knows how to work and build a dog in defense.
Ang
Ang
by bravo22 on 22 March 2014 - 19:03
LiberatoreK9- hehe priceless! Time-machine required? :)
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