hard dogs - Page 1

need some help who has & or breeds good hard working dogs thanks for your help

Good morning I cannot speak for others, but I for one am curious as to what you define as a "hard dog"? What is your criteria? I have found over the years that not everyone has the same definition....perhaps this can open up some interesting dialog on here...

Topthat, I agree with Kor. You must define what you are seeking in order to obtain the correct asstance. How long have you been involved in dog sport or training? Very few handlers can properly handle and or train a very hard dog. I know a trainer that has to wear a hidden sleeve when training his dog. Better to get a dog that matches your training ability and handler skills. Good Luck, Kyle

everyone wants a "real hard dog" until they get one. i know that was the case with me. just be careful what you wish for.

everyone wants a "real hard dog" until they get one. i know that was the case with me. just be careful what you wish for. you might just get it.

It seems to me that over the years that hardness has become associated with handler aggressiveness example if the dog is handler aggressive the dog must be a hard dog. Hardness is about judging the dog's courage and fighting instincts. And you don't have to have a handler aggressive dog to have a "real hard dog". So it basically comes down to your intrepretation of what a hard dog is.

IMHO... A hard dog is MADE through training and socializing the right puppy who has the right make up of genetics as well as individual potential. As the individual potential can vary quite drastically in a litter. I have seen many puppies ruined or thrown away, because people expected them to be tooo tough too early. Study up on your genetics/pedigrees, follow what different working dogs are producing and then look for what comes closest to your findings. Go and visit the breeder/litter and you and the breeder choose the puppy together. Puppies are always a crap shoot, but research helps tremendously. If you are looking for an adult it should make it tremendously easier, because you can go meet them and test them yourself. Debby ebinezer052899@yahoo.com castlebrookshepherds.net

i train with some of the best trainers in fl iv been handling dogs for about 5 yr what i call a hard dog is one that dont go down the field & bite for points they go becase they want to fight & win not one that will bite the handler just because but will let you know if you over correct one that can take what ever the trainer throws at him they used to be a lot of shepherds around like that & i hope they still are

Hardness is genetic. It is resilience through adversity. That adversity can be pain, stress, a correction, etc. Fax vom Haus Bernhart-Mader is a good example of a hard dog.

Well said Spook. They bounce back and go do their job. It sure makes up for some crappy handling at times. As the saying goes "that's why we get good dogs". I seem to see better dogs than handlers . Sad but true.---Bob