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MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 30 May 2009 - 03:05

This is interesting.   Apparently, the Shepherd is a Schutzhund Dog -- lets go and starts barking !!    Guess the Winner -- Rott, Pit, and Shepherd


http://www.officialgermanshepherdguide.com/gsd/german-shepherd-dog/bite-force-competition-pitbull-rottweiler-and-shepherd

by olskoolgsds on 30 May 2009 - 04:05

I cannot pull this site up, maybe something wrong somewhere.  The answer to the question should be Rott first, male gsd and pit about the same.  This is assuming they are all tested fairly.  Rotts are crushing and I believe this has had something to do with them not being used in LE any more.  Too much damage equals too many law suits.  Would you check and make sure you put up the proper site address.  Thanks

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 30 May 2009 - 12:05

Olskool.... I checked the site link and it is OK.   Rotts rated 328 / Shepherd 238 / Pit 235.   Yep, the Rott has the most Fatal Bites.  

by 1doggie2 on 30 May 2009 - 14:05

If that is the reason the leo does not use the rotts anymore, sad. If you have to send your dog, then the perp should be damaged. A good rott is a slice of heaven. I own both breeds (gsd and rott), so I have 2 slices of heaven.


Red Sable

by Red Sable on 30 May 2009 - 17:05

1doggie2, I disagree.  I watched a show once where they were chasing this kid (teenager) and the dog ( a gsd) grabbed him and kept tugging  on his legs and arms (you could see blood coming through his jacket,  which seemed like forever  while  the cops handcuffed him. The boy was  begging the policeman to stop the dog over and over again.  He  had done petty theft or something.  Anyways' watching it really bothered me.  What if my son did something stupid some night( which he has) and they tracked him with a dog.  I would be literally sick. 

I can't think of anything more painful than being mauled by a dog.  I'd reserve that for pediphiles, (chew them apart all you want,) and maybe axe murderers, but not some kid making a blunder,like alot of teenagers do.

luvdemdogs

by luvdemdogs on 30 May 2009 - 18:05

I agree with you Red Sable.  I thought the purpose of the dog was to stop or slow down the perp - not to chew him up. 

Anyway, I don't believe most of what I read on the "innernets", and especially when the writer can't spell a simple word like "domestic", LOL!

by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 30 May 2009 - 21:05

This test is all that is should be - some entertainment and that is it.

If a fair result were to be achieved, hundreds of dogs should do it multiple times, then get the averages out, and even then it wouldn't be all that scientific as every dog has the ability to control its bites.

Either way, Rottweiler, GSD and pitbull (and others) all have the ability to bite strong and hard.

My personal opinion - once the bite, say an arm bite reaches the stage where the dog is crushing or breaking the bone, as all 3 representative of the breed are capable of doing - then a few pounds up or down really does not matter.

If you feed your dog raw food and put a few bones in there, be it chicken or beef, or lamb, or venison etc... - my dog (or any GSD for that matter) chews them like I do crunchy salt pretzels and seems he is not even putting that much effort in it - it tell you all you need to know.

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 31 May 2009 - 13:05

Many rotts have trouble in the heat, and all weather ability is a HUGE factor for LE.

by olskoolgsds on 02 June 2009 - 07:06

Adi, you are correct in that any reliable test would have many different dogs from each breed if you want it to be reliable.  Having said that however, in my personal experience from working all of these breeds,  consistantly Rotts were by far the harder biters.  The problem with Pitts is that there is no standard to speak of.  You have 30 lbs to what, 80 lbs.  Head size varies too much in Pitts, so one would have to take an average of many dogs then come up with the norm.  GSDs also have a wide range in head size and biting power, not as drastic, but still would need to take an average.  Rotts are probably the most consistant in size and strength.

I remember some years back when Rotts started to get a real nasty rep, and some LE became fearful of lawsuits.  Some went to the extreme of "no bite" policy, leaving the dog a real target.  Law suits have made us a nation of fear, and anything that may bring about a law suit is avoided at the expense of the people.

Red Sable, I appreciate your opinions, but on this one I have to disagree.  Years ago you were allowed to shoot a fleeing suspect.  This was changed by the supreme court about 25-30 years ago as I recall.  Today dogs are sent to apprehend, and like 1doggie2, if you run from the law, you get what you asked for.   I have zero empathy for those that victumize society then run when caught.  This idea that the bad guy can run from LE. cause untold problems for LE. innocent bystanders, and show complete disrespect for the whole of our society are not the people I feel bad for when they get bit.  I have been bitten and it is NOT the worst thing in the world, trust me.  It hurts, you get x-rayed, taken care of and thats it.   I can think of many many things that make getting bit by a dog seem small.   For example, a police officer getting shot while trying to make an apprehension will cause lots more pain.

I am not empathetic to those that are bitten harder and longer than necessary, but again, it is real simple.  If you don't disrespect authority, if you don't victumize society, if you don't think of only yourself, carring nothing for anyone else, and if you don't  run when you get caught----- you won't get bit.  Real simple.  Besides, some people I have talked with over the years that have been bitten while fleeing have said that they would not run again, it is a deterent.  I think if my son were out breaking the law and he gets bit, I will thank the officer for sending his dog, because I want him to learn a lesson and most young men have to learn the hard way.  Give this some thought, its called tough love.





 


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