Hans K9 - Page 1

If you do a search you'll find a lot of info on him- nothing good. It sure sounds like a puppy mill in the making and it is very sad.   
Char

I have found I get better results with a gentle, nurturing approach to guiding new kennels. Every once in awhile somebody listens... Beating them up just makes them hate you and strengthens their resolve to continuing on the route they are on.

-Auntie Shelley

He contacted me about training his dog.  I remember reading about him and when I got a email - saying he wanted advise on training his dog (s) - I remembered the info on database.  I did search and found what I remembered - I did advise him that he had a lot of dog's and that my schutzhund club is a club - we promote the sport of schutzhund. 

I am not saying anything bad about this kennel - nor do I personnally know it is a puppy mill.  I just want to be alert to people that have large kennels that know nothing about training GSD and solicit advise that they should already know.

Good points.

Some comments here are disingenuous. One of the people writing here suggesting we should "help" the new kennels knows, as do the rest of us, what is going on here. HansK9 has every right to do what he is doing, but it does not sit well with most of us. If one thinks they can play footsy with him and thereby gain, they will. But most people will see the writing on the wall.

This is just another person from a foreign country who sees a way of making money off of the breed. Let's assume for one minute that it is to be a hobby. If you read the posts about what he wants, it is clear he has no clue and is just collecting dogs of all backgrounds willy nilly. So the matings produced (already had an accidental litter?) will also be willy nilly. This does nothing for the breed. In fact, the individual clearly has demonstrated his lack of knowledge all around. That should be the first warning sign for anyone who thinks they want to get involved. But, then again, if one could care less about where the dogs come from, which matings are done and why, a lack of knowledge about the breed, how to import,  or the business dealings within, some of the old timers here wish you luck. You can bet that sooner or later we will be seeing complaint after complaint about this kennel. You can be sure we will be shaking our heads then too.

please read carefully ...... wish here we had more respect to eachother and we could act like a human .... seems problem is years years we spent to much time with dogs therefor now we act like a dog and loves to bite someone and thats wrong and shame . YOU , yes you right now reading my message ... for second be honest with yourself .... do you remember when you was new to the game .... what you did , spent time years years and try to learn and now you know everything therefor why anytime someone try to learn or get new dogs or get title for his or her dogs everybody start attacking him / her . do you know %99.99 words here we use against eachother is so low and disrespect , why ? what's the problem ? what happen to us ? I came here 3 - 4 weeks ago , probably over 500 pages was messages aboout me , my question is , how many time we had business together and how many time I gave ya fake money order , NEVER , therefor how you can call me scam ! how many time I sold puppie to you therefor how you can call me puppie mill , 99 to 09 I had 4 litters if anyone don't believe you welcome to contact AKC , about training .... yes I contact her to get help for title my male dogs , I am sure all breeders all they trying to find someone to get help for traing , what's wrong with that ? if you don't have dog with title everybody say he is puppy mill when you try to get help again they call you scam, puppy mill or whatever , really why ? why ? seems all we are here to hurt eachother to make few more dollars , I don't think so life is only money , yes I ask her to get help for training , do you think when I was born from my mother I came to this world as a breeder or trainer , NO but I respect myself as human bc I am trying to learn , I am trying to find some good bloodline and add to my kennel .... , if I was going to buy a  newspaper and try to find $125 dog , if I was going to low's and pay $225 for fence or if I was going to buy dogs with fake money order YES you could call me scame or puppy mill . is nothing wrong with try to learn and I will and if really mentaly make you happy to put me down therefor do it ..... I am here trying to learn and if anyone can help please contact me !   AND THE END ... I am single person with no kids , usually I don't make money with dogs but if I make some I sent to two diffrent children hospital to help kids with cancer (maybe yours) .... GOOD LUCK !

Just passing through, anybody got a smoke?
JPTAGAS.....................

most people tend to forget their own humble beginnings.  no one is born knowing everything.  we learn as we go and often make mistakes in the process.  many of us could very easily have been labeled backyard breeders at some point in our learning process.  the problem lies in those who do not learn and continue on even at the expense of others and of the breed.  if we were truly honest, many of the very early breeders were, infact, backyard breeders.......though i'm sure they saw it very differently.
pjp 

I believe I addressed some of that here this morning- http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/281972.html#282887

I've smoked enough for both of us this a.m. Moons. Caffeine and nicotine, breakfast of champions.

SS