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by blueroan on 04 February 2009 - 17:02
Does anyone know of, have or going to have pups from the following dogs? Does anyone have experience with offspring from these dogs? I would like both positive and negative, any comments are welcome (I just may not listen to some)you can PM me also
Panjo vom kerschental
Redox line
Andrjuscha van noort
I am in California so closer is better for pups, if you have pup (or are going to) please let me know the mom too.
Thank you for any comments
Panjo vom kerschental
Redox line
Andrjuscha van noort
I am in California so closer is better for pups, if you have pup (or are going to) please let me know the mom too.
Thank you for any comments
by blueroan on 04 February 2009 - 19:02
Anyone?????

by Uber Land on 04 February 2009 - 19:02
what are your intentions with a pup?
can't go wrong with Andrujscha or Panjo.
can't go wrong with Andrujscha or Panjo.
by blueroan on 04 February 2009 - 19:02
Family First, but I love to show (please don't judge me) I would like to do shutzhund (I belong to a club and a great trainer), possibly herding (never done that before) Basically a well balanced dog. we take our dogs everywhere and I would like to have a dog that is able to do this. So far showlines (the ones I have dealt with)are pretty but not great bitework and I have not seen good nerves and it seams that everyone is saying the same thing. I hope this explains a little w/out making me look to picky

by Uber Land on 04 February 2009 - 21:02
you have a right to be picky, you will pay alot of money and should get what you want.
the dogs you have listed are known to produce good working drives. you shouldn't have an issue with a pup sired by these males out of a good female.
in showlines they are few and far between. there's a thread on here about showlines that can work, I would suggest reading everyones comments.
the breed in america has temperament issues. some, not all, don't deserve their top VA titles and can not do bitework. this statement will probably offend some people, but all you need to do is watch these dogs at the sieger show, the bitework routines aren't impressive.
the dogs you have listed are known to produce good working drives. you shouldn't have an issue with a pup sired by these males out of a good female.
in showlines they are few and far between. there's a thread on here about showlines that can work, I would suggest reading everyones comments.
the breed in america has temperament issues. some, not all, don't deserve their top VA titles and can not do bitework. this statement will probably offend some people, but all you need to do is watch these dogs at the sieger show, the bitework routines aren't impressive.
by blueroan on 04 February 2009 - 21:02
Thank you Uberland! I have read that post and that is where I found Andrjuscha. Unfortunatley he only has puppies coming in germany and RI from Monroehaus and they won't ship to CA. Thank you very much. I do not take offense and I would call myself a showline person, I know thre is a problem with the balance. I know a breeder that once said "oh its ok for a showline to shy away" not so........

by Uber Land on 04 February 2009 - 22:02
Andrujscha is in the US now, look for more breeders to be having litters from him.
by blueroan on 05 February 2009 - 03:02
Anyone else care to offer opinions
by blueroan on 06 February 2009 - 05:02
Thank you to everyone that replied, It has been very helpfull and encouraging......
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