both parents OFA fair- red flag

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by starrchar on 04 February 2009 - 03:02

I recently inquired about a litter soon to be whelped, asked about the hips of the parents and was told they were both OFA fair. I immediately decided against a pup from this litter. Was I being too hasty?
char

by tiffae89 on 04 February 2009 - 03:02

I prefer good hips myself. I don't go for Excellent/Excellent breeding though... The hips get too tight, and you get issues.

by yellowrose of Texas on 04 February 2009 - 03:02

http://www.workingdogs.com/ofa_penn.htm

by Uber Land on 04 February 2009 - 03:02

I would have looked at the parents siblings ratings, grandparents ratings ect. if most of the dogs were OFA good I wouldn't be concerned with the fair- fair breeding. that is still a passing grade.

by tiffae89 on 04 February 2009 - 03:02

Thats a really good article YR thank you.

by yellowrose of Texas on 04 February 2009 - 03:02

Many , many pedigrees from our top lines, top podium va =v dogs have Noch Zugelassen

hips and actually when I researched pedigrees on our database last year, had a hard time finding pedigrees without a vast number of Nz...

The link above is from Fred Lanting 's book and he explains about the ratio of age when ofa or penn is done and is a very good article to read...

He addresses the tighness of the excellent hips also against age of dog when ofa is done and how the ofa was attained...very good article. I have to re read it all the time....very deep stuff.

YR

by Mystere on 04 February 2009 - 04:02

Fair is still dysplasia~-free. You may be missing out on a great puppy. The parents' OFA ratinf alone is not sufficient, anyway, if you can obtain info on what they have actually produced (OFA of prior litters), as well as siblings and what they produced. Would I rather see good and excellent? Sure, most would. But, I would not eliminate the litter from consideration out of hand.

by olskoolgsds on 04 February 2009 - 05:02

Starrchar,
In answer to your question, the answer is yes IMO, you were being too hasty. If this was a litter that really had your interest, you might want to do a little more research and see what they are throwing and the above comments. Good luck

by Ryanhaus on 04 February 2009 - 13:02

If that were the case then SV Normal would be a red flag.................

by july9000 on 04 February 2009 - 16:02

Tiffae..What the hell is that : you get hip that are too tight when you breed exellent to excellent..Excuse me but I have to laugh a litlle here LOL..

How can you have too tight HIP..How can breed perfect hip to perfect hip give too tight hip??

This is one of the stupidest comment I've heard on this board,,sorry to tell you that..

You should be worried about fair-to-fair hip breeding..of course you have to look deeper on the ancestors but even if the ancestors have all good hips..I would still be worried about what's next in those pups..

I think you have made a good decision if it is a dog you want to include in a breeding program..if it is just for a pet..than it is something else..you still could take a chance..Fair is fair..it is not dysplastic..

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