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by TessJ10 on 02 February 2009 - 15:02
If you don't want PETA volunteers having State authority and permission to come on your property and poke around your dogs whenever they feel like it, better get on the phone to your rep. now.
Truly a horrible plan that might actually pass.
Cross-posting from another list:
"Today at 5pm the Virginia House Agriculture committee will review HB2669, to reestablish the Humane Investigator program, a volunteer driven program that has been advertised by several animal rights groups here in Virginia as the way forward in their agenda to eliminate hunting with hounds. In essence- these investigators- are unpaid volunteers that will have the right to inspect any kennel at any time and be empowered to charge dog owners under Virginia statute- based on their findings and remove animals that they believe are underfed. We already know that to them a hunting hound- who is essentially a marathon runner is “underfed”. It will be a very slippery slope here if we have PETA members as humane investigator “volunteers” show up at any farm without probable cause to charge pet or hunting dog owners with what they perceive as a violation. I urge you to write to Delegate Orrock, Chairman of the Committee, and ask him to vote NO to HB2669. DelBOrrock@house.virginia.gov
The Virginia Farm Bureau is on our side on this fight- they object to this Bill also as the Bill would also apply to farmers and their horses, cows, etc. We have animal control officers who fulfill this mission splendidly- lets not add “volunteers’ who have an agenda…."
by candis on 02 February 2009 - 16:02

by Two Moons on 02 February 2009 - 16:02
This shit is unbelievable.
Insane.
Maybe its time to go after Peta physically, legally or otherwise.
Take a stand, inspect this !!
Enough is enough.
by TessJ10 on 02 February 2009 - 16:02

by wuzzup on 02 February 2009 - 16:02

by Two Moons on 02 February 2009 - 16:02
Don't let them out of the car, physically. Keep your dogs out of sight, I'm talking physically your self.
I wouldn't let them out of the car without a law officer present. They would need protection from me.
States are as broke as the rest of us, hit them in the place they feel the most.
Anyone with a Peta sticker on their car should live in fear.
by hodie on 02 February 2009 - 17:02
Do you think anything about all this crap restrictive legislation has anything to do with the public (and the lame lazy legislators who fail to properly analyze what the real problem is) perception and why such kinds of legislation continue to be brought up?
Practically every month I get 4 or more requests to take GSDs who have been involved in biting someone or killing or attacking a small dog or cat. WAKE up people. If GSDs are perceived as a whole to be part of the problem, believe me, in the end, they will be part of the restrictive solutions people think will work to protect society from dogs who have idiots for owners.
Breeders are the root problem because all too often they do not care about to whom they sell a pup or a dog. Just sell it. Just get the damn money in hand and get the dog gone. Surprise, surprise when the new owner knows nothing about the need and methods to socialize or train. Or has an inappropriate or no fence and on and on and on.
No, I don't think any of this is funny, but I understand where such legislation is, in part, coming from.

by CrysBuck25 on 02 February 2009 - 17:02
I agree that it's time to stand up to these nuts and tell them we don't want them around...After all, isn't this a free country? There are plenty of other places that activism can save lives without interfering with pet and working dog owners. Maybe they can form a bucket brigade in Africa and wet down the desert, make some farms and grow some food? With dogs, lots of behavior problems are caused by not enough exercise and mental stimulation...perhaps that's what's wrong with PETA!
Let's just hope they don't ban the keeping of dogs and all other animals as pets and slaves to mankind. Tofu, anybody?
Crys
by TessJ10 on 02 February 2009 - 18:02
"I wouldn't let them out of the car without a law officer present."
Well, here's the problem. Most of us work and we simply are not there during the day. These people know this and they can simply come when we're away.
"Keep your dogs out of sight"
A lot of people already do this, but dogs in crates in houses freak people out. They'd poke around, hear the barking (because of course your dogs would bark when someone's poking around), and blast you for keeping your dogs in cages, which is what most dog people call crates.
When I first moved to PA, I rented a farm, had horses and dogs. I didn't work off the property at that time and one day as I drove back on the property from grocery shopping there was a woman and a man walking up from the barn. I asked if I could help them and they said no, they were just checking. I said, checking what? and the woman laughed and said, "oh, we come here every now and then just to make sure your horses are well taken care of, that they have water and the stalls are clean. We keep an eye on you! But don't worry, your place is great."
I had never EVER had a moment's problem with anything or anyone, and these people said that they did this all the time - just drove onto people's places, first making sure they were not at home, even admitting to watching them drive off, and then "for the animals' sakes" "just making sure" everything was all right. They admitted this wasn't the first time they'd been in my barn.
I don't live there anymore, but this happened to me last winter in my current home, and it's not a farm. One night while chatting on the phone I was looking out my kitchen window watching the snow fall. It was so pretty that I turned on the outside lights and turned off the kitchen lights the better to watch the flakes. My heart just squeezed in my chest when I saw a large handprint show up on my kitchen window, just where it would be if someone was peering in and had their hand on the side of their face to look in. You couldn't see it normally, and I don't know how long it'd been there, but I do know for a fact that busybodies come around when you're not there.
This year I bought a second-hand car, so now that there is more than one vehicle at my house, people can't be sure if anyone is home or not. Before if the truck was gone, everyone knew I was gone and it was clear sailing for snoops. Now they can never be sure and I don't seem to have the problems anymore.
Also have another GSD who doesn't take kindly to snoops, and I put him in the yard.

by Princess on 02 February 2009 - 21:02
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