video: Ian Dunbar: Dog-friendly Dog Training - Page 1

Ian Dunbar: Dog-friendly dog training

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/ian_dunbar_on_dog_friendly_dog_training.html

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 Thanks for posting the video.  Dunbar is always interesting.  I had the opportunity to attend one of his seminars a number of years back.

Micky

Missbeeb, you know exactly what im going to say, but it will be deleted! What a ****! Rhymes with stick!

God forbid anyone listens to this man to carefuly! He needs to attend one of Caesars seminars!

J

I though he sounded alright any newbie to dogs and dog training could benefit from his seminary, he is funny and gives very good tips for begginers in a intresting way. Keep in mind that a lot of those dog trainers aim for genaral public, "dog training for dummies" lol :)

I went to one of his "talks" many years ago in London.  I have to say he talked a lot of common sense.

He showed how clever many dogs were at manipulating their owners into doing whatever they wanted!

"I though he sounded alright any newbie to dogs and dog training could benefit from his seminary, he is funny and gives very good tips for begginers in a intresting way"

I guess this is why, at least in my area, his seminars are attended by AKC trainers with years of experience.  You're right, his philosophies are geared toward the more companion-type trainer than the Schutzhund/ringsport enthusiast.

That said, his suggestion that punishment can be non-violent is never used by grip sport people of course, is it?  Every grip sport person keeps the game going full tilt when the dog fails to out, instead of locking up, (a form of punishment, ending the game) now don't they?

When you keep your mind open, you might get something, however small, from a highly educated dog behaviorist, even if he or she doesn't have expertise in every dog sport on the planet.

Micky

there doesn't have to be a competition between training techniques. there are just different approaches and this is just another one to look into particularly if milan and others like him don't blow your hair back.   i do think there are many who are looking for something different than what those techniques offer.  i also believe that milan etc will always have their diehard fans, as most any technique will, but imo learning from other approaches is not a betrayal of one's preferred technique.  in fact one might actually glean a tidbit or 2 from a differing perspective that will actually enhance the preferred approach.

there is no doubt that dunbar has a pet dog approach therefore his usefulness to working and show dog owners may be marginal. i'm not sure how well it would work with sports like sch or something like birddog work, but i bet it would translate very well for at least the 1st yr.  and given the solid foundation this approach would impart it might just make the later specialized training go much faster.  although one might have to adapt it a bit to make sure the technique does not suppress instincts you will later want the dog to express.

it cannot be argued that dunbar is anything but a really great guy, who has done and is still doing a great service particular for pet dog, which most gsd end up being.  there is also no doubt that some folks will not find his technique useful but it cannot be denied that he has brought about a lot of positive change for the pet dog and imo that ought to be appreciated in it's own right.

i did not post the video to argue or place dunbar above any other way of thinking. i simply wanted to share the video i stumbled upon yesterday that i enjoyed listening to.  if someone has a method they are particularly fond of please post a thread with video etc on it; i know i would be interested in it.  from my pov it's all about widening one's horizons by understand where others are coming from.  when a dog or a person keeps learning the mind is kept flexible and receptive so we are better able to adapt to new and different situations when and if they arise.  so this is all in the spirit of learning and expanding ones horizons.

You are right of course, justcurious. 

We were totally bombarded with all the stuff from him a good few years back.  It kinda puts you off!  No offence.