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yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 30 December 2008 - 00:12

I was recently told that my male  Gauda was a "patterned sable".  I do not ever remember being told this or know what that means.  Need some feedback. Here are several pics of Gauda.  His sister is  Dressa   . 

I took the pics so all could see various sides , head and undercoat of this dog..

 

 

This is Dressa, his sister.

 


Rugers Guru

by Rugers Guru on 30 December 2008 - 00:12

She has distinct markings of a black and tan, only the black is sabled.


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 30 December 2008 - 01:12

Both of them are totally a sable..But the person said that He , Gauda, is a patterned sable...??????

There is no doubt about either one being sable.. She is grey GAUDA IS  RED.  NOW WHAT DOES A PATTERNED SABLE  mean.?


Mystere

by Mystere on 30 December 2008 - 01:12

Patterned sables look like they have "points" (legs, ears, etc.) and the black on the back tends to be a "blanket" form, rather than a saddle, but still discernable as a pattern of coloring differing from the legs.   I think that if you check Linda Shaw's website, she may have examples of them and a comparison with a non-pattenred sable. (?)


RacingQH

by RacingQH on 30 December 2008 - 01:12

To me a patterned sable is a dog that looks like a black and tan dog but the "black" part is actually sable. They ARE sable, but actually tend to look more like a black and tan dog. A lot of dogs like that have one black and tan parent. Seems like they also typically do NOT have the penceling(sp) on their toes, nor do they have the tar heals and the darker stripe down their front legs. With a lot of "patterned" sables it is hard to tell if they are sables or black and tan. (ThHough if you see them as puppies, it is quite obvious that they are sable.) With the male above, "Joe public" would think he is a black and tan.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 30 December 2008 - 01:12

Both of these pups were  grey sable as pups, clearly with no markings but the black markings on tail and on mask.  Couldnt find the baby pics in my albums.


by eichenluft on 30 December 2008 - 01:12

right - they are sable dogs with the "patterns" or markings of a black/tan or black/red saddle-back dog.  My Aika is a patterned sable - her mother was black/red show-line, sire red sable working line.  Look at her from the front and you might think she is black/red.  But she's a sable - patterned like a black/red.

molly


Kalibeck

by Kalibeck on 30 December 2008 - 02:12

Cool thread, & just what I waas thinking about, having received some pictures of my pups that left home at 8 weeks, that I haven't seen since. There were 4 'black & tan' puppies in the litter, they looked black at birth. 2 of them are turning brown, facial markings showing, & if you part the hairs on their heads, they are reddish brown underneath! There are solid black hairs on them where the 'saddle' would be; the other 2 pups have all black hairs with red-brown legs, vents, & facial markings. I started a thread a while back, asking if my female pup was blck & tan, or sable. I'm still not sure. I'm not going to even try to post pictures after the trouble I had this morning, but I will try to take new pix this weekend & post them. The bicolor female we have looks, well, bicolor; until you start parting her hair. So, what is she? jackie harris


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 30 December 2008 - 07:12

 

Two more of my sables.  Next pic below is the  foundation Konige ..

 Konige's dam was red sable and his sire was Blk/Tan Gauda and Dressa's Mom in the Middle when she was very young.   male on the left is sable..   Zu is Mom to both of the sables. she is Black /red. Konige is sire.

 

 

Bear  is what?   a pattern sable or a red sable..His dam was grey sable Lava v Korbelbach and his dad is Kanto v Monteforthalle, son of Uran V Wildsteigerland.  Sometimes during the year his undercoat shows up better. HE IS RED AS CLAY FROM OKLAHOMA.


by kioanes on 30 December 2008 - 15:12

here's another one...

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/551053.html

Fizz is by a black sable dog out of a black & red bitch.  the pic was taken when she was 1 year old.  her patterning is becoming more defined as she matures.

 






 


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