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kountryangel

by kountryangel on 29 October 2008 - 03:10

Hey all this is my first post...I have an 11 week old pup,that has only one testicle that has fallen...my vet told me we should get him fixed if the other one doesnt come down...due to a possibility of tumors...and something about them going funny in the head....not sure about this...we dont want him fixed,but I wanted to find out first.....Thanks so much...I love all the info this provides me.


Bob-O

by Bob-O on 29 October 2008 - 03:10

Just my opinion-your veterinarian is giving you poor advice at this stage in your puppy's life. I would give this puppy six (6) months or so, and see what happens. I hope that your veterinarian is more concerned about the well-being of your puppy than he is about making some extra money.

An undescended testicle can increase the probability of testicular cancer, and produce too much testosterone due to the fact that it will be warmer than a descended testicle. The puppy may (big "may" here) be more aggressive due to the higher level of testosterone.

Sometimes the undescended testicle can be found (if it is really there at all) and gently massaged into the scrotum. But there is not much time to accomplish this before the inguinal ring (just above the scrotum) narrows to the end that the testicle cannot fall through. I tried this with one (1) puppy (from a VA-1 father, no less) with no luck. It was not meant to be.

But, (my opinion here again) this puppy should never be a breeding candidate regardless of the outcome. Testicles should be in the scrotum at or before six (6) weeks of age, and definitely before eight (8) weeks of age. If one (1) or both (2) are not present by this time, the chances for success are slim.

Do not fall for hormonal therapy-that is as bad as surgical correction if the intent is to fool someone into thinking this puppy is breedworthy. He needs to keep at least one (1) of his testicles for as long as three (3) years, and should keep at least one (1) of them if the undescended testicle can be found and removed.

So again, give it some time and see what happens. In the meantime, carefully try to find the testicle and massage it into place, and above all, enjoy this puppy's maturing into a dog.

Good Luck,

Bob-O


kountryangel

by kountryangel on 29 October 2008 - 04:10

Thank you so much for the info....I will use what i have learnt to do the best by my puppy.....we never wanted to bred him...but didnt want them taking his manhood before it was time...they wanted to do it by 6 months...but you said to wait till 3 yrs...is that right?......he is my baby...and i had another question..is it ok to let him sleep in our bed...and the kids beds...he has been for over a month...wondering if that was ok to keep letting him do?


AhSighEE

by AhSighEE on 29 October 2008 - 06:10

I hate to be so negative but I would run as fast as I can to another vet...Laughing my head off...Funny in the head, is the description of your vet...

He has rocks in his.

Find you a vet that knows about german shepherds and not got cotton between his ears.


yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 29 October 2008 - 06:10

 

Unbelievable that a vet would have that kind of diagnosis.

I agree, find another vet. I have seen many male dogs left alone and never any kind of problems . One in Galveston has one testicle, and he is healthier than pumpkin pie..Never one time to a vet except for his shots.

Not funny in head also...Like raw meat makes dogs mean...had a vet tell several tales like that...dogs that sit funny automatically have bad hips...aweful funny one of  my girls sat sideways, and she was ofa excellent...

I do not like spaying or neurtering. Dogs get fat,  have problems , and no need., unless your dog is seriously ill or  has genetic problems that cause it to have some kind of fit, or seizures or take mega drugs that would require that kind of surgery.

YR


by mkennels on 29 October 2008 - 07:10

I would wait and see it may drop still, the pup is young, if not by 1 then I would neuter, my mom has 2 15 year old dogs one a female golden and a male gsd, both was fixed at 6 mths of age and now they are 15, and still healthy, loosing hearing and sight but that is age, she also has 3 others a 2 1/2 gsd that just got spade, a lhasa apso and a tibetian spaniel both are spade, all is very healthy, active and happy with no chances of an accident to happen in having pups now.

I have 3 a female and 2 males but I do conformation and breeding but once I will not do that with them anymore they will be spayed or neutered, I just placed a 5 year old husky and he was neutered before he left and he is doing great.

look for another vet, sounds like that one dont know what he is talking about

good luck


windwalker18

by windwalker18 on 29 October 2008 - 11:10

Brings to mind a story told by an ole Shepherd man... Bill Goldbecker... he told of a "well known young male" who was being shown and campaigned quite heavily... when one day a judge reached down there to check for the proper equipment and found not ONE testicle... not TWO testicles... but THREE!!   hummmmmmmmm   seems that someone had altered their youngster by adding a fake, only to have the acutal one drop without them noticing.   Needless to say that young promising male vanished from the show ring...  Never could get him to tell me the name of the dog, but he said that it was one that everyone would have recognized.....    lol


tigermouse

by tigermouse on 29 October 2008 - 12:10

don't let him sleep in your bed at all...that is your space not his ..this can cause problems later with dominance mine arnt even allowed to come upstairs (except for bath day)

I would find a new vet


Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 29 October 2008 - 12:10

  I had a lab that retained 1 testicle for up to six months, then it dropped.

I also, had a gsd that had 1 testicle and he developed cancer at age 7.

About letting your pup sleep in your bed, a gsd can take over the Alpha position quite fast,

DO-NOT let him sleep in your bed, not until he's fully trained and has high regards for you
as his owner, then after that you can think about it, NO getting up on the couch either!


kountryangel

by kountryangel on 29 October 2008 - 14:10

Thanks again guys....love the support..will be hard for my puppy to not sleep in the bed...he cries about 8 pm and wants to be put in my daughters bed for the night,then she goes to bed at 9...maybe i will have her keep the dog on the floor beside bed...wow this will be hard....love the guy so much...but i dont want a bad dog....also,when should training start?....and what should he be taught first....he knows sit ,stay,and down.






 


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