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by rainforestscouts on 28 October 2008 - 03:10
yea tess we know by your other posts that you were a mccain/palin supporter. well if they lose by one vote we will all know why.
lets just say that i have had enough experience around enough black people to understand that some sterotypes are founded in the observation of certain proclivities. just as i have had enough dealings with white middle class people in the country to know that there is an element of truth to the fact that they will in general have more guns and be more religious than the average liberal white city dwelling college prof. i thought the movie "white men cant jump" was pretty funny too. hmm, isn't THAT interesting.
by TessJ10 on 28 October 2008 - 03:10
So what "proclivities" have you observed about blacks & watermelons that you have also not observed about whites & watermelons?
Waiting for your answer. This is going to be good.
by TessJ10 on 28 October 2008 - 03:10
Oh, and btw, your second example says that white people in the country may live differently than white college professors in the city. So whites can be different, but African-Americans can not? Take out the word "white" and you are simply saying that perhaps people in the country may live differently than college professors in the city.
You just made my point. PEOPLE may or may not live differently, but it's based on the difference in PEOPLE, not in COLOR.
Do you think therefore that black people in rural America may live differently than black college professors in the city, or unlike whites, that the black people are all the same, and (to name only 3) that Dr. Cornel West of Princeton, Dr. Elizabeth Alexander, who has taught at Yale and Penn, or Dr. Jafari Allen of Columbia are likely, since they're African-Americans, to be caught in your watermelon-under-the-box trap, since you have observed so many "proclivities" of "black people."

by rainforestscouts on 28 October 2008 - 04:10
tess, so glad you asked. you see, when i was young we didnt have much money so i had to chip in. i found myself working many days in the summer on a snow cone truck. we kept about eight flavors of syrup in plain view at any given time. invariably when we crossed into the part of town that was predominantly black we would sell out of first watermelon and then strawberry flavor syrup in that order. the picture would have been funny to me if it had been a strawberry. i didnt really have any preconceived notions about this as i lived closer to the hispanic part of town. BTW, did you know that in general mexicans like hot food. funny story--it was also on the snow cone truck that I learned that black people refer to each other using the n-word. a mother with her 7-8 yo son stopped us one day to by a snow cone. the boy could not decide between watermelon and strawberry. after a minute or so mom yelled at the boy, "n****r, what you want?" that was a word we didnt use in our house then or now so it kind of stuck in my memory. perhaps my small sample of only several thousand black men women and children is inadequate to draw any scientific conclusions. however, i believe that coupled with the observations of so many other people it is just possible that there may be an ounce of truth there.

by rainforestscouts on 28 October 2008 - 04:10
i live in the country and there are no blacks here. all the same living in the city. you see you made my point.

by rainforestscouts on 28 October 2008 - 04:10
tess, isnt it funny that your three examples of nonconformists african-americans are all professors of african-american studies. maybe you should write them and explain to each of them that it should be "people studies" since they are obviously not as enlightened as you. i enjoy a piece of watermelon every now and again. i've played some basketball. i cant slam dunk. i've thrown some bones. i am not saying that these activities are the exclusive domain of the black man. i am simply pointing out that these activities are more entrenched in the black culture and the observation of these proclivities is not in and of itself racist. if the picture had included other end of the string tied to the big toe of a hillbilly sleeping in a rocking chair with a bible in one hand and a shotgun in the other we would have seen the person that barack described in his san fransisco speech. is that any less racist? or are you just allowed to think it or even say it as long as you don't draw a picture? when more than 90% of blacks will be voting for barack, it is reasonable to discuss black americans as a monolithic group.

by Two Moons on 28 October 2008 - 07:10
SSDD.
by dshlerner on 28 October 2008 - 07:10
Rainforestscouts,
Get a clue! And a life.......did you read what you wrote before hitting "send" ?
by TessJ10 on 28 October 2008 - 11:10
Please answer the watermelon proclivities question.
And yeah, I figured your intense knowledge of the proclivities of African-Americans came from a summer working a sno-cone truck.
by TessJ10 on 28 October 2008 - 11:10
What, you didn't like that my 3 professors teach African-American studies? That somehow negates their intelligence and achievements to you? Well, rainforestscouts, here's a list of dozens of other African-American professors and scientists: https://webfiles.uci.edu/mcbrown/display/faces.html including engineers, biochemists, physicists, and mathematicians. Or these scientists & inventors: http://www.factmonster.com/spot/bhmpeople15.html
or these government officials: http://www.factmonster.com/spot/bhmpeople1.html
or these teachers & scholars: http://www.factmonster.com/spot/bhmpeople17.html
Currently in this country there are thousands more of well-educated, hard-working professional men & women who happen to be African-American. Just like whites. Or Indians. Or Europeans. Go ahead and email your watermelon-trap to George W. Bush and John McCain. I'm sure they'll be very proud of you and will pass it on to Condeleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, and Colin Powell.
Better yet, since this is a GSD board, how about emailing it to some of our National-level Schutzhund helpers, trainers, & WORLD TEAM members? I'll get you the addys for Chris Carr, Wallace Payne, Lotus Perkins, and T. Floyd, to name just a few. What "proclivities" and stereotypes have you observed about THEM?
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