dominick donovan - Page 1

i live in new york and heard that this guy is back in town. (long island) has anyone trained with him before? i hear he's pretty hard handed.training for protection and obediance. would you leave your dog with him for an 8 week course?

claire

There is only a very short list of people that I would leave my dog with for any length of time for any reason.   I'm just not the trusting sort........

For OB and protection I prefer to work directly with a trainer and get trained along with my dog.  Is that an option for you?  Either working with a club or with someone one on one?

Unless you have a long standing relationship with someone I just would not send my dog off for training.

THATS WHAT A REFERENCE  LIST IS FOR.....SOME PEOPLE CANT TRAIN THEIR OWN DOGS.......LETS NOT GO THRU THIS AGAIN ON THIS SITE....PUTTING SOMEONE DOWN THAT ASKS ABOUT HAVEING SOMEONELSE TRAIN THEIR DOGS...NOT EVERYONE HAS THE FEET, LEGS OR BACK TO TRAIN,,,,,,

GET A REFERENCE LIST FROM THIS PERSON,,,IF HE DOESNT HAVE ONE ...LOOK SOMEWHERE ELS,E,,,,,,;YOUR VET CAN HELP , SURELY THEIR IS A SCHUZ CLUB NEAR YOU AND THEY WILL RECOMMEND TRAINERS....A LOT OF TRAINERS ARE IN  SCHUTZ CLUBS AND TRAIN PRIVATELY ON THE SIDE.......

i DONT HAVE THE NOV , DEC    SCHUTZ MAGAZINE HERE , YET ,TO SEE THE CURRENT LIST...SOMEONE ELSE CAN GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THE LOCAL CLUB NEAREST YU......

i am just looking for opinions on him.

he's been around for longtime. and i've heard good and bad.

leaving my dog i doubt that will be happening.

but then why are so many americans so earger to put there dogs on a plane to germany and title them.

without ever seeing what is going on.

Laziiness?

just to have a titled to dog to breed to make money.

if the closest club is 5 hours away then guess what,i have a life and i guess training is out for me..it is not a priority, UNLESS you need to title to make that money on the pups out of titled parents.

 atleast this guy i can show up unexpected and see what is going on.

sorry about the rant i'm new and this site is really crazy!!

so let's see who's willing to sell me a pup

sorry yellow rose, if you can't train your own dogs then why have them titled?i am looking for protection /personal traing for my dog

claire

.......sorry about the rant i'm new and this site is really crazy

UMMM ya!

rezkat...

 what a nice welcome..

and your problem is??

amazing you have to come onto a site with full armor on

CLAIRE555:     DONT QUITE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO....

I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO REREAD MY POST,,,, I DID NOT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT YOU TITLING YOUR DOG,,,,,NOR DID I DOWN YU

I SAID FOR THE SITE TO NOT GET ALL OVER YOU ......OUR PEOPLE HERE LIKE FOR YOU TO GO DO IT YOURSELF AND GET IT DONE YOURSELF....

I ASK, THAT THE PEOPLE HERE, AFTER BETTY , REFERRED TO YOU, WHY YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF....?

YOU CAN FIND A SCHUTZHUND,CLUB,,,,,CALL THE HEAD TRAINER OR DIRECTOR ON THEPHONE....NO ONE SAID GO THERE.........THEY HAVE ACCESS TO NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD GERMAN SHEPHERD TRAINERS......

SCHUTZHUND IS NOT ALL ABOUT PUTTING A TITLE ON A DOG,,,,,,AND I CAN WELL ATTEST ,,,,THAT PEOPLE WHO SEND THEIR DOGS BACK TO GERMANY,   ARE THOSE OF US , THAT HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND A WORKING AND SPEAKING AND PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP, WITH THOSE GERMAN BREEDERS....USUALLY IT IS THE ONE YOU BOUGHT YOUR DOG FROM...AND THEY HAVE GOOD REPUTATIONS...

AFTER ALL  HALF OF THE CLUB MEMBERS HERE IN THE USA  , EITHER TRIAL AT ONE TIME IN EUROPE OR HAVE RELATIVES THAT DO,,,,,,,,,,WE DONT JUST GO SEND A DOG OFF.....IF THE MAN HAS NO REPUTATION , HE WILL HAVE NO REFERENCE.LIST...

REFERENCE LISTS ARE A PART OF ANY KENNELS REPROTIOR....I HAVE ONE THAT IS THREE PAGES LONG...IF HE DOESNT HAVE ONE....THEN FIND SOMEONE ELSE....

PEOPLE HERE ONLY KNOW WHAT THEY HEAR,,,,,HEARSAY IS NOT ACCEPTIBLE IN A COURT OF LAW AND SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTIBLE TO YOU,,,,,,,,,CALL THE GENTLEMAN BACK AND ASK HIM TO EMAIL YOU HIS REFERENCE LIST AND HIS NAME OF HIS VET HE USES....HE HAS TO HAVE A VET ON CALL, IF HE TRAINS AND CHARGES FOR IT,,,IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT HIS PROPERTY,,A VET HAS TO BE USED BY HIM.......HIS VET WILL BE ABLE TO SAY YES HE IS OR NO HE IS NOT A TRAINER AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD OR YES HE HAS SOME PROBLEMS...

NO ONE IS RANTING TO YOU OR BEING UGLY, YET,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I WAS TRYING TO DISCOURAGE THAT , AS IT DOES HAPPEN,,,,,,,THANKS FOR ASKING.,......OBEDIENCE TRAINING IS ALL YOU NEED,,,,,YOU DO NOT NEED PROTECTION TRAINING,,,,,IT COMES WITH THE DOG,,,,AFTER YOU GET THE OBEDIENCE DONE,,,,,THE DOG WILL BE VERY PROTECTIVE OF YOU,,,,AND YOU WILL LEARN HOW TO CONTROL  HIM OR READ HIM.......

YR-Since I was the only one that had responded when you posted I assume that you all in caps post was directed at me. I take exception to your inference that I was putting someone down that is unable to train their own dog.

I stated that unless I had a long standing relationship with someone I would not leave my dog with that person and I do believe that that statement did in part answer the op questions.  You may feel comforable going by a reference list but I am not.  I have yet to see anyone put a client on a reference list that was unhappy with them.

You do not need the current magazine, all clubs are listed on the websites for USA, DVG, and WDA.

Back to the original poster, I am unable to give an opinion on Mr. Donavon.  I only know what I have seen posted about him/by him on the internet and and internet search on his name should give you the same information.  If you haven't done a search you may find some of the information educational.

We are posting at the same time YR!  And it's making me more confused then normal which is  no mean feat.

I thought this was interesting from your last post

"AFTER ALL  HALF OF THE CLUB MEMBERS HERE IN THE USA  , EITHER TRIAL AT ONE TIME IN EUROPE OR HAVE RELATIVES THAT DO,,,,,,,,,,WE DONT JUST GO SEND A DOG OFF.....IF THE MAN HAS NO REPUTATION , HE WILL HAVE NO REFERENCE.LIST..."

I train privately and in a club enviroment, several different clubs as a matter of fact and I can count on one hand the amount of people that I have trained with that have trialed in Europe or has relatives that trial there.  My experience is no where near half the Amercian club members that you stated.  Did I misunderstand your post?

And personally while hearsay may not be accepted in a court of law it is certainly something I would consider when sending my dogs to someone for training...........