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by Uber Land on 14 March 2009 - 21:03
you have over 20+ dogs and are breeding them before 2 yrs old without health clearances ect, but you say you are not a breeder
by steve1 on 14 March 2009 - 21:03
It it the norm for Schutzund Clubs in the USA i presume you live there, to charge a fee to evaluate dogs of people wanting to join your club
Is this the normal thing in the USA or where you live, and please can you tell me for instance that if i want to join your club, why should i need to get my dog evaluated by anyone in the club unless you have a certain critira that you stick to regards the experience of the said Dog, So i bring with me a 12 month old Pup which i have been training and it has to be evauated for what may i ask
Now if you belong to a govening body like i do over here in Belgium i pay 65 euros a year and the bulk of that goes to the VVDH, for that i get a monthly magazine with all the up to date rwesults of trials and a list of coming trialas etc,
Plus i can take my dog and train it at any club affiliated to the VVDH and that means about 60 clubs or more
Now if your club charges a fee for joining that is different, or if some charge is made for any training help that too is different but charging to evaluate a persons dog is not usual, least not over here in Europe
I do not pay for any help i get with the training of my dogs, I am very lucky in that respect and the trainers are some of the best in Belgium so i am double lucky
Just a little curious of what you replied to this Hans fellow
Steve
by happyday on 14 March 2009 - 21:03
- you say you are just loving your dogs - and if you make money you give it to Childrens Hospital - what a load of crap - let's call a spade a spade - you are just breeding dog's to breed dogs and making money at it with no reason in your method of breeding - that is what people have a problem with. Most of the breeders I know have worked hard in selective breeding in the GSD - they use selective breeding - alot of time and effort goes into breedings. Way do it any way else. Why make the breed worse if you can make it better.
You obviously have problems reading - they have been saying that all along - I don't recall anything about your RACE - change your ways, man - Uberland said what his problem is - can you not READ. We got a problem with your race - you are the only one noticing your race - you are breeding dogs that are to young to be breed.... Change your ways - and I see by your website - you have a liter you just bought that you are going to breed in 2010...They aren't ready for that - work on your training skills man - do something with the dogs you so love - they are good for more than just breeding -
It is so sad when all else fells for control you use the race card. It seems you have alot of money that you could buy older dog's to breed - if you must breed - why cant you do that and let the dog's born in 08 just be trained...That is what you were looking for - were you not?
Shelly
by AnjaBlue on 14 March 2009 - 21:03
by starrchar on 14 March 2009 - 21:03
You're not a breeder or dog collector???????? You have a minimum of 20 kennels and have placed numerous adds looking for dogs all over the world!!! I don't say this often, but you are full of it. You say you are going to give money to the children's hospital which is wonderful, but what about the dogs! If you truly love the dogs as you say you do and aren't in it for the money why don't you just get a couple of nice dogs to work with at the Schutzhund Club you contacted. Trust me, the attitude that many have towards you on this board has nothing to do with your race. Sorry, but the pieces just don't fit.
Char
by happyday on 14 March 2009 - 21:03
Steve 1
I don't live in Belgium - I live in the USA - and your grammar is so bad - I don't understand what you are saying...
But I get the jist of it - we are as well as all other schutzhund clubs in the USA, made up of free individuals. Club's are joined by a majority vote of it's members. Just because you want to join - doesn't mean you can. Just 'cause you pay your money, you can get in. Schutzhund is a hard sport and dog's that might not be able to do it, shouldn't do it. Club's help you achieve your goals that you have. For you and for your dog. Not all dog's can do Schutzhund. Temperment of both the handler and the dog needs to be right. Over agressive dog's aren't welcome at our club. You can come to our club and just watch -no charge - but usually people that come have a dog or pup that they want to work in schutzhund - and usually they are people that just bought a pup/dog and know nothing about training - they want to know if the dog can do schutzhund. Thus the charge.
It is in the norm to charge a fee to evalute a dog. As well as to even visit a club - see - http://www.southmetroatl.com/membership.htm
or http://www.gasaonline.com/id3.html
Ever club has their on criteria joining or evaluation - this is the USA and we can do what we want to do....All clubs can....
by Uber Land on 14 March 2009 - 22:03
In north Texas, we have clubs that are free, then we have clubs who require a fee to be a member (and thats if you pass the test of the other members liking you and thinking you would be an assett to the club). I know one club out here that requires you to help during the trials the put on, whether it be donating food or picnic stuff, or helping set up everything. another club asked a $150 a year fee to help offset the costs. and a few, if you can't make it out at least once, preferably twice a week, they don't want you. they want people to show up every training session, not just once a month or every now and then.
by hodie on 14 March 2009 - 23:03
However, we hope that most people who start out wanting to breed dogs start slowly, and with some foundation. Amin, the reason you are getting a lot of trouble from people here is you are not knowledgeable, and it shows in almost every post you make here.
Secondly, you intend to breed and have many, many dogs and are looking to buy more. I doubt seriously you have any clue about what you are buying. You appear to know nothing about temperament or structure or bloodlines, you know nothing about canine health, you know nothing about training, but yet you are ready to jump in and breed and sell dogs. Of course, there will be people who don't know better and will buy a dog from you. And when you tire of this, you will end up likely leaving all kinds of trouble behind. And the dogs pay the real price.
It is not about what nationality you are. Most of us could care less. It is what you want to do without having seriously spent any kind of time learning what you should have learned before you start breeding.
I doubt you will give it one minutes thought.
by ZVZW on 15 March 2009 - 00:03
Jerry
by Mystere on 15 March 2009 - 03:03
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