
This is a placeholder text
Group text

by BlackthornGSD on 03 February 2009 - 05:02
In some areas of Virginia, people "keep" packs of hunting dogs. They might be 10-20 dogs in a pen on some lot in the middle of nowhere, once a week they have someone drive over, tear open a bag of food, fill the water, drive off again. (The comment about their "marathon runner" deer dogs doesn't ring quite true--maybe some owners train and exercise and feed them carefully, but I've never seen it.)
In other areas, once deer season ends, the roads are full of dead hound mixes and the pounds overflow with these hounds kept for running deer. All the deer beagles (beagle/hound mixes used to run deer) are just turned loose once the season ends.
I don't want people coming onto my property and bothering my dogs without my permission. But I also have a really hard time getting in bed with the deer beagle group--they sure aren't the people I'd like to have representing the working dog in Virginia. Blech. A lose-lose proposition.
In other areas, once deer season ends, the roads are full of dead hound mixes and the pounds overflow with these hounds kept for running deer. All the deer beagles (beagle/hound mixes used to run deer) are just turned loose once the season ends.
I don't want people coming onto my property and bothering my dogs without my permission. But I also have a really hard time getting in bed with the deer beagle group--they sure aren't the people I'd like to have representing the working dog in Virginia. Blech. A lose-lose proposition.

by steve1 on 03 February 2009 - 09:02
Not trying to stir it people, but i thought the USA was land of the free, how come you can have people walk all over your property, at will, What say your Dogs are in the locked up house what do these people do then break in or what
If anyone came to my house on spect demanding this sort of practise, they would think twice at coming again,
After a long vacation that is for i would not be standing there talking only once would they be told to leave, never a second time
Completly out of order the laws or would be law over there in the USA, it is an infringement on peoples rights
Steve
If anyone came to my house on spect demanding this sort of practise, they would think twice at coming again,
After a long vacation that is for i would not be standing there talking only once would they be told to leave, never a second time
Completly out of order the laws or would be law over there in the USA, it is an infringement on peoples rights
Steve

by Vom Brunhaus on 03 February 2009 - 11:02
This is the aftermath of Michael Vick

by BabyEagle4U on 03 February 2009 - 13:02
Dr. Paul will be interviewed on Judge Napolitano's radio show, Brian and the Judge, shortly after 10:30 am eastern this morning. Constitutional Defender Judge Napolitano, always makes things interesting ... you can watch or listen live online .. the Judge starts @ 9:00 am eastern. http://www.foxnews.com/radio/brianandthejudge/
Contact info for your reps to oppose this crap in Virginia ... http://www.campaignforliberty.com/usa/VA/ (scroll down to bottom)
Just GET INVOLVED !!!
Givin' thugs permission to roam freely on your property, gives them (the thugs) right of way to defend themselves also. Make sure you and your dogs understand the fine print. This crap is nothing more than a death trap for our family dogs and ourselves.
Contact info for your reps to oppose this crap in Virginia ... http://www.campaignforliberty.com/usa/VA/ (scroll down to bottom)
Just GET INVOLVED !!!
Givin' thugs permission to roam freely on your property, gives them (the thugs) right of way to defend themselves also. Make sure you and your dogs understand the fine print. This crap is nothing more than a death trap for our family dogs and ourselves.
by TessJ10 on 03 February 2009 - 15:02
Well, BlackthornGSD, just like there are awful GSD people, there are awful hound people, right? So do you want to be considered the exact same as "those German Shepherd people" who neglect their dogs? I don't think so.
Dog people and hound people need to clean up their own acts and regulate their own people, whether by their own association rules or by peer pressure - but it must be done. Otherwise we have proposed legislation like this. [Soon as I hear an update of what happened last night I'll post it].
So, whether you like it or not, all of us who love our dogs and our sport, whatever it is, had better hang together on fighting animal rights legislation. Don't forget, that to the folks at PETA and HSUS, German Shepherd fanciers are no different to them. You only have to take a cursory cruise through msg. boards and magazines to find tons of articles advocating crate confinement, food withholding, etc. You think PETA doesn't call that cruelty? You think that even if you don't do those things PETA will distinguish between you and those who do?
Dog people and hound people need to clean up their own acts and regulate their own people, whether by their own association rules or by peer pressure - but it must be done. Otherwise we have proposed legislation like this. [Soon as I hear an update of what happened last night I'll post it].
So, whether you like it or not, all of us who love our dogs and our sport, whatever it is, had better hang together on fighting animal rights legislation. Don't forget, that to the folks at PETA and HSUS, German Shepherd fanciers are no different to them. You only have to take a cursory cruise through msg. boards and magazines to find tons of articles advocating crate confinement, food withholding, etc. You think PETA doesn't call that cruelty? You think that even if you don't do those things PETA will distinguish between you and those who do?
by TessJ10 on 03 February 2009 - 15:02
Don't know anything about the "deer beagle" people, but do know a lot of foxhunters, and they take exceptionally good care of their foxhounds.
If you know anything about hounds, you know they are a social crew. You can put 5 hounds with 5 doghouses and they'll all cram into one - they've been bred for hundreds and hundreds of years to live as a group and it's how they're happiest. There is so much stupid kennel legislation out there, started to combat crowded puppy mills, that will order each foxhound to be kenneled separate from each other hound - nothing sadder and more miserable for a hound than that, but these ARs neither know nor care about that.
If you know anything about hounds, you know they are a social crew. You can put 5 hounds with 5 doghouses and they'll all cram into one - they've been bred for hundreds and hundreds of years to live as a group and it's how they're happiest. There is so much stupid kennel legislation out there, started to combat crowded puppy mills, that will order each foxhound to be kenneled separate from each other hound - nothing sadder and more miserable for a hound than that, but these ARs neither know nor care about that.

by BabyEagle4U on 03 February 2009 - 15:02
Who in their right mind would use a beagle to run deer ? LMAO
That's not saying too much for the health of deers in your neck of the woods. Besides, if a beagle would run this mountain around here .. all the yotes and woofs would maul it. The deers would stand and watch.
Who's beagle runs deer again ? LMAO
That's not saying too much for the health of deers in your neck of the woods. Besides, if a beagle would run this mountain around here .. all the yotes and woofs would maul it. The deers would stand and watch.
Who's beagle runs deer again ? LMAO

by 4pack on 03 February 2009 - 15:02
TessJ10, what a creepy story about the people on your land and the handprint on the window. Those folks would have got an ear full and maybe a foot in their ass from me. All it takes is for one of them to twist an ankle and they would sue the homeowner/renter, that is no doubt hard at work at their job, while these buttplugs tresspass. Do they not have a life of their own? I would have asked their address so I could return the favor.
by TessJ10 on 03 February 2009 - 17:02
VA HB 2669 results: "Subcommittee recommends laying on the table by voice vote."
I'm told this translates to: "Not this year!"
so YAY! Good job, everyone who called/wrote.
We'll see what the ARs come up with next; it'll certainly be something. Usually they try to word things so innocuously and pro "for the animals" that you need to read carefully to see the nightmare ulterior motive behind it.
I'm told this translates to: "Not this year!"
so YAY! Good job, everyone who called/wrote.
We'll see what the ARs come up with next; it'll certainly be something. Usually they try to word things so innocuously and pro "for the animals" that you need to read carefully to see the nightmare ulterior motive behind it.
by Micky D on 03 February 2009 - 17:02
Just a suggestion; now that the vote to table has been taken, perhaps a note of thanks to these legislators would be appropriate?
Here are the organizations that actively worked to kill this bill, that would have given police powers to minimally trained, private citizens:
The Farm Bureau, the Agribusiness Council, VA Poultry Association, the Virginia Federation of Dog Clubs and Breeders, the Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance, the Virginia Foxhound Club, the Virginia Deer Hunters Association, the Virginia Fox Hunters Association, Virginia Houndsmen and Sporting Dogs Association.
Here are the organizations that actively worked to kill this bill, that would have given police powers to minimally trained, private citizens:
The Farm Bureau, the Agribusiness Council, VA Poultry Association, the Virginia Federation of Dog Clubs and Breeders, the Virginia Hunting Dog Alliance, the Virginia Foxhound Club, the Virginia Deer Hunters Association, the Virginia Fox Hunters Association, Virginia Houndsmen and Sporting Dogs Association.
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top