Some LEOs Need To Read This... - Page 1

How they do drug raids in Canada. This happened in Calgary, Alberta:

Police say they seized two children, arrested three people and shot a dog while executing drug warrants at two houses Wednesday morning.

During one of the raids at a home in the 2300 block of 19th Street S.W., a pit bull-type dog lunged at a tactical officer and bit him on the left arm. Officers tried to get the dog off and when they couldn't, shot it.

"The officer who had it latched onto his arm tried to pull away and the dog had locked its jaw," said Deputy Chief Ray Robitaille. "This is what we call a dynamic forced entry. It was right at the initial stages so you had the entire rest of the house that had to be cleared, so time was of the essence and lethal force was the only option available to immediately have that dog release."

Robitaille said most dogs are typically passive during police raids.

"Even breeds that would be traditionally viewed as aggressive," he said. "This is highly unusual that a dog would attack a police officer, let alone a tac-team member doing a dynamic entry."

Both homes were under surveillance prior to the warrants being executed and there was no indication dogs were inside, said Robitaille. The tactical team member was taken to hospital and treated for serious bite wounds, requiring more than a dozen stitches.

 

So, no excuse for shooting the family pet! And yes, it sucks the officer got bitten, and I fully understand why they had to shoot the dog. But in most cases involving a dog, the situation does NOT need the use of deadly force! In one situation I read about, a pit bull type dog had escaped from its yard. It had already bitten someone who tried to capture it. A [Canadian] police officer managed to get the dog safely back where it belonged by tasering it.

I hope ''some LEO'' read this. GOD BLESS YOU! I am glad no people were hurt and I hope your effort had a positive result. I question the intelligence of people who do a drug business in a home with children. It is possible the dog had training to put the effort into an attack and then hold the bite on the LEO, in which case it was a weapon and not a ''house pet''

Yep, I know that's definitely a possibility, and is one of the main reasons the pit bull has gotten such a bad reputation! 

But ban the pit bull, and they'll just move to some other scary-looking breed, like the Cane Corso or the Dogue de Bordeaux... 

Excluding situations where the Police have to, in the course of doing their job, enter the dogs domain.

Everyone wants to slime cops for shooting dogs but nobody holds the owners accountable for putting their dogs in those situations. Had a traffic stop where the driver had a pitbull who was barking at us half hanging out the back window.  The owner knew it and did not roll up the window or grab his dog and leash it. The owner got a lecture from me about being responsible and not putting his dog in a bad situation by leaving the window down. Some people especially anti cop people think it is cool to intimidate or make cops nervous with their tough dogs...but they are too ignorant to the consequences until their dog is dead.

 

Yes dogs accidentally get loose and sometimes cops have to, in the process of doing their job, enter a dogs residence or yard...some incidents are sadly unavoidable like the OP's example. But, If dogs are properly and responsibly restrained and contained the chances of them getting shot by a cop is very low. Most incidents are completely avoidable with responsible ownership!!

 

Why not use OC spray? If you have a loose dangerous dog...with oc spray you STILL have a loose dangerous dog. People can fight through OC and so can dogs. Not saying there is never a scenario to use OC (if the dog is reasonably contained and the officer or bystanders can escape)but it is not the correct use of force in a dangerous dog situation.  Im not going to OC a loose dangerous dog so he can run away and bite someone else. Cops are called to solve the problem and protect the public not make it someone else's problem down the road. Again it falls on the OWNER for the dog being in that situation. A dog who will bite a person is a threat to serious bodily injury and their life is not equal to that of a human...lethal force is justified.

 

Why not use a Taser?  A taser ejects two prongs, BOTH have to hit the target in order to work.  The taser trajectory is designed for an upright human, not a horizontal small target.  Even if you get lucky and hit (as the dog might be running at you or running towards someone else) if one prong misses you get bit, if BOTH hit Its a 5 second ride then you are back where you started!!, then if he doesn't run he's probably pissed. It is a dangerous dog who may or may not have an owner, police are NOT obligated or required to run down their less than lethal options.  Not saying a taser could never be an option depending on threat level, number of officers and containment of the animal.  But it is insufficient force on a loose dangerous animal.  Tasers, althoug an amazing piece of equipment is not magic, and often has a failure rate of 50% on humans (what it's designed for)...it would be difficult to hit a dog with a taser.

Cops are not obligated to use less than lethal force when dealing with a dangerous dog.  Period.  If they do it's a judgment call depending on the situation.  At they are not obligated to wait until they get BIT to shoot.  If they percieve the dog is a serious threat they are justified in shooting it.  Perception...there in lies problem. I am a decoy, trained in dog behavior via my hobby.  Some Police officers haven't so much as owned a turtle.

 

I will be the first to admit LEO's have insufficient to no education on dogs, reading dog behvior, reacting to loose dog inicidents.  Some officers are more nervous or afraid around dogs than others (just like the general population).  I agree if you are afraid of dogs you shouldn't be a cop, but as far as I know that is not inculded in the psych exam or battery of pre-employment tests.  I have seen incidents where officers completely read a dog wrong and should not have shot it.  But MOST of the incidents people throw their arms up about COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY RESPONSIBLE OWNERSHIP AND PROPER CONTAINMENT.

Sorry I do not shed one tear for a drug dealer who's dog bit a cop and got shot.

 

Good handling of both humans and dogs

In my psych exam (former state trooper) they asked me what kind of animal I wanted to be. I asked if I could have two, the guy said yes. Told him a famous thoroughbred stallion so I could live in an air conditioned barn and get laid severl times a day. He giggled and asked what the other one was I let him know I would like to be a bird so I could shit on people I didn't like. Told me I made his day. Apparently I fell into the normal category I was hired

LMAO...see easily room for a dog question or two LOL

That vid is awesome - " how do you like me now". LOL

I see from the beginning of vid that the department had educated officers to deal with "bad dog" situations, and this vid is an example of effective education and tactics. Good job.

Some LEOs need to read this! ''THANK YOU'' The video above is not as dramatic as the crap that is always on line and in the media, but I am certain it is ''normal'' daily function for our LEO. They must deal with the adult off of their meds, deal with the out-of-control teen , deal with the career criminal, and then, please do not shoot the dangerous dogs. Hey America, let's make the rest of the month of July be; '' Make LEO job easier month''!